Hi All, Would like to know is this doable? I plan to visit Europe end of March. We plan to travel around via train and bus.
We will fly to Berlin because there is a direct flight from my country.

Day 1 - Berlin > Nuremburg
0730 - Arrival
1030 - Train to Nuremberg
Spend a night at Nuremberg

Day 2 - Rothenburg
0930 -Nuremberg to Rothenburg Ob Der Tauber
1800 -Train to Munich

Day 3 - Munich
0715 -Munich to Zuspitze
(This is a Day trip from Munich)

Day 4
0800 - Munich to Neuschwanstein Castle and Fussen
(This is a Day trip from Munich)

Day 5
0630 - Munich to Berchtesgaden and Kognisee Lake
(Overnight at Salzburg)

Day 6
Spend the morning in Salzburg
Plan to reach Hallstatt late afternoon to spend evening there
(Overnight at Hallstatt)

Day 7
Scroll around Hallstatt in the Morning
After Lunch Stop over at Bad ischl
From Bad ischl back to Munich


Day 8 (Munich to Prague)
Leave Munich in the morning via bus to Prague

Day 9 (Prague)
explore Prague

Day 10
Explore Prague

Day 11
Explore Prague

Day 12
1900- Fly Home

Arriving Berlin > Munich > Salzburg > Munich > Prague

Flying in Berlin and out from Prague.

Will it be tiring ?

Thank you!

Yes except for Prague days it is barely possible but you'll be on trains or buses all the time. No not workable as folks said on your previous post asking the exact same thing.

This itinerary is a lot better than the other one you posted. However, you only have a few hours in Nurnberg and Rothenburg and I think you need more in both. I would do that by adding one night in Rothenburg. Stay in Nurnburg till around 2 or 3 (your itinerary really has no time at all to explore it) and aim for about a 2 to 3 pm train to Rothenburg. This will also mean you'll miss the worst of the day trippers. Rothenburg was very crowded (and not too pleasant) between about 10 am and 4 pm but before and after that it was lovely. The town is small and doesn't take long to see but when you do it is the key. It's very popular with day trippers.


The Salzburg/Hallstatt part sounds good. We did similar, arriving in Hallstatt mid afternoon and leaving mid day the following day. Same as with Rothenburg as far as day tripper crowds are concerned. Hallstatt is considerably smaller than Rothenburg and unless you are visiting the salt mine there isn't much to do.



You have three full days in Prague and none in Munich (every day you are doing a day trip). Perhaps shift one day from Prague to Munich. I did like Prague more than Munich but your itinerary currently only allows for Munich at the end of the day after a probably tiring day trip.

This is not quite the same as the previous one, as it cuts out one night stands in Zurich, etc., and is a little more sreamlined, I think. But it wasn't quite what I expected. I didn't expect the trip to Salzburg to be just one morning.

I'd drop Hallstatt, seems to muck things up. And I would not go back to Munich for no reason just to take a bus to Prague. Leo Express buses go from Salburg to the Czech Republic, you could take a bus to Prague (although best times are limited to certain days), OR maybe take the bus to Cesky Krumlov, stay overnight (that is only about 3 hrs by bus from Salzburg) and then take the bus to Prague from CK (or train, but there are a lot of buses that do that route as it's popular for tourism). The train station isn't right in town, for one thing.

That way you'd a;t least have a whole day in Salzburg and then at least half a day or more in CK.

oh, FYI here is the website and routings for that bus, maybe it's the same company from Munich, not sure

https://www.leoexpress.com/en/where-we-go/line-map

<<Will it be tiring?>>

I'm exhausted just reading it.

Seriously? You're spending all your time getting there, no time seeing what you've presumably come so far to see.

This is NOT much of an improvement.

You keep asking if it will be tiring. The answer is YES, it will be tiring. If being tired is a concern for you, change your plans.

So far, sorry to say, all your itineraries are, IMHO, truly horrible.
A direct flight is great, but not when it takes you to a city you do not even want to see and you have to waste your entire first day getting someplace else and your last day getting back to it. That has also cost more money. You have time to come up with a really good itinerary. Do not book tickets to Berlin or anyplace else until you have a better plan.

You say "we" and from "my country."
How many people on this trip? Ages?
What country are you coming from?
Southern Germany can be cold and snowy in March. Do you have proper clothing for that? Be prepared and dress in warm clothing, especially in Bavaria.

It may seem good to do Day trips and not change hotels, but not when the day trips are really long and some of the places are closer together than they are to the base.
If you are not going to tour for at least a whole day, then cut Berlin, Munich, etc. Cut Zurich. Forget lunch stops. Go directly to places of interests. Skip any places you do not actually plan to see.
Look at a good map showing rail lines.

Hi, thanks for your reply. We are age 30 and 33 from Singapore. We do not plan to explore much in Munich but just using it as a base, because we plan to go to zugspitez but the weather at the peak are not always good and clear, we will check the webcam on that day, if the weather is bad we will just walk around Munich. Munich will gives us more alternatives to explore if the day is not suitable for Zugspitez.

Same for Zurich, we are not going to explore Zurich as we prefer smaller town like Lucerne, Zurich will only serve as a transfer to Lucerne .

Here is an amended plan

Day 1 - Stop over at Nuremberg
Arriving Berlin : 7 A.M
Since it's the first day we don't plan to do any sight seeing.
Travel from Berlin to Nuremberg - Train 3.5 hrs
Probably walk around handcraft market at Nuremberg near our hotel and have dinner near by.

Day 2 - Main Attraction Rothenburg
Nuremberg to Rothenburg - Train 1 hr 15 min
Spend 9 am to 5 pm at Rothenburg
6 pm Train to Munich - Train 3 hrs
Check in hotel at Munich

Day 3 - Main Attraction Zugzspite
8 A.M leave Munich to Garmisch - Train 1 hr 22 min
Spend 10 am to 5pm sight seeing there
5 pm depart Garmisch back to Munich - Train 1 hr 22 min
* no changing of hotel

Day 4 - Main Attraction Neuschwanstein Castle
7 A.M leave Munich to Fussen - Train 2 hr
followed by a 10 min bus 73
10A.M to 5PM at the Castle and Fussen
5 PM Leave Fussen back to Munich
* no changing of hotel

Day 5 - Munich to Zurich
Leave munich in the morning - IC BUS 4hrs
Reach Zurich by Noon, have lunch there and take a 45 min train to Lucerne - Train 45 min
* Check in hotel at Lucerne

Day 6 - Lucerne
Full day at lucerne (Lake / Mt Rigi)
- no changing of hotel

Day 7 - Lucerne
Full day at lucerne (old town exploring)
- no changing of hotel

Day 8 - Lucerne > Zurich > Munich
After breakfast at Lucerne, Leave for Zurich - Train 45 min
Have Lunch at Zurich and do some shopping
4 P.M bus back to Munich - IC Bus 4 Hr
Travel back to Munich

Day 9 - Munich > Prague
tea time at Prague

Day 10 - Prague
Full day Prague

Day 11 - Prague
Full Day Prague

Day 12 - Prague
Half day at Prague
Evening 7 P.M Flight home

You are traveling a LONG way. You will need to figure in jetlag. I travel to Europe about every 1-2 years and as I've gotten older (starting around 35), the jet lag began to affect me.

Cut back on your destinations. Jet lag will affect you. You're zig-zagging back and forth from Munich - and not seeing it! Find a better base. Someone (on one of your threads) suggested Garmisch - consider that.

You asked if this will be tiring, with where you are coming from , the zig zag, long-haul destinations from your arrival city, the answer is: YES. You WILL be tired,

Retool your beginning, fly into Munich or Frankfurt and plan from there. Flying into Berlin is not helping you, it's going to cost you more time that you do not have. Cut out the back and forth. If you have no real reason to go to Nuremburg or Zurich - take them out, don't even stop there for lunch unless you have a long train or bus layover!

Instead of Mt Rigi from Lucerne I'd take the train to Engelberg and the iconic rotating cable car up Mt Titlis - the epitome of the high Alps with perpetual snow, etc:

https://www.google.com/search?q=mt+t...w=1280&bih=625

Mt Rigi is fairly low altitude and known for its fab views but not a taste of Alpine splendor many want to see in Switzerland.