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Travelers....2 types on this forum. Which one are you?

Apr 9th, 2006, 02:23 PM
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When you plan a trip, it is always good to ask for advice, but it is also good to analize it and take from it what you feel it is right after you have read a lot about the place you want to visit.

Part of my trip in June/July includes Campania. I'll spend 9 nights there divided in 3 nights on Ischia, 3 nights on Capri, and 3 nights in Positano. I'll visit Ischia, Procida, Naples, Capri, Pompeii, Positano, Amalfi, and Ravello.

Some posters' advice was to stay in Sorrento and do daytrips from there because changing from hotel to hotel would be exhausting.

At the beginning, I was going to do that, but then I thought about it and came to this conclusion:

To visit all of those places I would need at least 8 nights including the day I get to Sorrento.

Of course, staying in one place is more comfortable, but two things can happen if you do that:

1. Imagine you don't like Sorrento, wouldn't it be a pain to stay in a place you don't like for 8 nights? And according to many people and many pictures I have downloaded from the internet, Sorrento isn't really that magical.

2. How many ferries/buses/trains do you have to take to get to a place and then come back?

3. Ferries don't run at night, which means that you have to get back early and not spend enough time in that place.

4. Ferries may get cancelled because of bad weather, which means that you'd be worried during the entire daytrip thinking you have to visit the place in a rush because you can't wait for the last ferry to leave because what if it's cancelled? This also gives you less time in a place.

5. Imagine you like Sorrento. Even if a place is wonderful you get bored eventually. Isn't it better to leave a place wishing you had stayed longer? That makes you remember it with nostalgia and thinking it was magical and that you'd be happiest person in the world, if you had the chance to go back there. I prefer to remember a place this way and not like "it was beautiful but, after a while I wanted to leave because there was nothing else to see or experience". Believe me, unless you live in a place and have a life there, you get bored if you stay too long sipping wine and having wonderful italian meals all the time. My grandfather, who was Italian (he passed out) used to say that "places are like fine prosciutto, it's better enjoyed if you have thin slices once in a while, because if you eat too much of it and quite often, you end up feeling nauseous".

That's how I got to the conclusion that it was better stay in three different places in less than 10 days because if I don't like any of them, I'll be gald I am only staying for 3 nights, and if I end up loving one of them, I'll leave thinking it was out of this world.

I've been to Europe 3 times. The first time I went to Italy on a tour. It was a bit dissapointing because the tour wasn't about visiting cities but main squares and main churches instead. However, I left Italy thinking it was gorgeous and looking forward to going back again. This means that, in the end, it wasn't all bad after all. It could've been better, but at least I was able to see what places seemed appealing and which ones not.

The second time I went to Europe and I visited London. I stayed there for a week and after a couple of days I wanted to leave. I think London is a great city, but, if you ask me to describe that trip in a sentence it would be: "It was great but I was bored after a couple of days". Is that the way to remember a place?

The third time in Europe I visited Paris/Nice along with Milan/Venice. I stayed in Paris for 5 nights. I know that 5 nights aren't enough to visit Paris but if you ask me to describe that part of the trip I'd say: "Paris is wonderful, I can't wait to go back there". I stayed in Venice for 4 nights and it was so magical that I'm going back this year. Milan and Nice were kind of dissapointing. I stayed there 4 and 3 nights respectively and I am glad I didn't stay longer. Nice is an ordinary beach city with an OK and dirty historic center. Milan is nice but only as a daytrip. That's just my personal opinion.

I know that everybody is entitled to have an opinion and we should all respect that, but it really gets on my nerves when people say "if you don't stay in such place for at least a week, don't even mind going because it's going to be a waste of time and money". That means that my grandfather (remember, he was italian and the "dolce vita" type) was wrong his entire life and that we should eat tons of prosciutto for a week until our stomach explodes. As crazy as it may sound, I think that even a daytrip to Rome is worth doing it as long as you don't expect to see it all.

When I was asking for advice about how long I should stay on Capri, one poster answered that I needed at least a month to really appreciate the island. I respect his/her advice but... come on! Give me a piece of advice I can use! Don't tell me that you have to spend a month on a 6 km long isle to really appreciate it. Imagine what he/she would've said if I had asked him/her how long should one stay to truly appreciate Rome. What would his/her advice be? "if you can't stay in Rome for 10 years, don't even bother going?".

When you plan a trip, buy a bookguide and read about the places you want to visit. Don't visit a place just because it is a "must" or because it's part of a top 10 list.

"When it comes to likes and dislikes, nobody is ever right". Just because the writer of a bookguide says this or that landmark is worth seeing, it doesn't mean that's a universal truth. It means he/she liked it and he thinks it should be visited.

After you have read about a place, ask for advice because people who have been in a place know valuable information that is not in bookguides.

95 per cent of people here are really willing to help you plan your trip and enjoy it. The other 10 per cent just wants to disencourage you by only looking at the negative aspects of everything and by telling you that if you don't have a month to spend in Vatican City, don't even worry going otherwise blah blah blah.

Just remember to analize it and take from it what you feel is right.

Remember:

1. When it comes to likes and dislikes, nobody is ever right.

2. Have a little prosciutto every now and then.
 
Apr 9th, 2006, 02:56 PM
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I'd like to add a third to lonelyplanet's things to remember:

3. Take everything with a grain of salt.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 03:04 PM
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I am the kind that has traveled extensively abroad...but I am always planning my trip of a lifetime! I take my 'trip of a lifetime' nearly every time I go. This year, we'll be in Ireland in May, Italy in June, a transatlantic cruise in late september which will include Italy, Spain, France, Portugal and the Azores and then back to the US, then Bhutan and India in November. There's a big blue marble out there, and we love running around on it!
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Apr 9th, 2006, 03:06 PM
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Glad you found something in my remarks, adventureseeker. It may have already been said, but I also wanted to point out that sometimes people who question what looks to them like a jammed trip are just trying to help you avoid making mistakes they made -- or that others imposed on them when they travelled with other people.

Of course, there is no excuse for not being able to give advice politely, but the internet seems to defeat what would otherwise usually prevail in face-to-face conversations.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:28 PM
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While I'm just starting to travel abroad extensively, I'm with the crowd that says each trip is a trip of a lifetime.

It doesn't matter if you're going to a place for the 1st time or the 10th time. Each time you're there, you're in a different state of mind, a different stage in life, have different ideas and different feelings, are in different stages of thought. Each time is special and different, even if you visit the same places each and every time, in the same order. Something will always look new to you even though the feeling may be familiar.

Anyway, I'm in the stage in life where I have nothing more than my parents to tie me down. As a result, I'm traveling now as I know when I start my own family, I may not have the small luxuries that I do now. Julies describes things perfectly that I anticipate will happen in my life.

Unless I win the lottery. Then I travel regardless.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 09:10 PM
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mcnyc: That was beautiful and well put. I love your post! Well done. I echo your comments.
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Apr 10th, 2006, 05:52 AM
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I think of each trip as a necklace of beads. The sightseeing that we do in each place constitutes the beads, the chain that links them is the time spent commuting between each place.

There is, and probably ought to be, a lot of disagreement over how big should the 'beads' be. This is the subjective part of the trip, so it isn't surprising that one can find many opinions as to how long to spend in a given place. Some people like a few big beads on their 'necklace', others like an array of smaller ones.

The length of the chain is another matter. One has less ability to alter the amount of time it takes to get from place to place, especially if one is using public transportation or driving into a large and congested city with parking scarcity. In other words, trip of a lifetime or no, one must plan to allow for enough chain to go around your trip 'neck' or one could risk strangulation. Even if the chain is sufficiently long to go around, it could be uncomfortably tight. I think I better stop myself here, before I paint myself into a metaphor corner. But you get the idea.
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Apr 10th, 2006, 07:42 AM
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Sue, it's a very attractive metaphor you presented, especially to those of us who appreciate jewelry Maybe another thread should be started asking "What does your travel necklace look like?" I think we would get descriptions of priceless pieces of jewelry from many people. Deborah
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