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Travelers....2 types on this forum. Which one are you?

Apr 9th, 2006, 08:26 AM
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This is a great thread. I agree Julies you have a way with words.

We are of the first group but not on the top of that group. We've been fortunate enough to have travelled to Europe a few times and we've been blessed to see a few countries.

Speaking of what "a trip of a lifetime" means I totally agree. For me our trip of a lifetime will always be the time we spent in a small city in Finland. We rented big bright yellow bikes and rode every where we went. It was September and the weather was balmy and sunny and wonderful. Every memory I have of that trip is precious to my soul.....even the broken ankle I brought home with me. (It's not all sunshine but I was so totally in love with Finland and Sweden it didn't dim my spirits one bit.)

I hope this forum will make you aware of what lies out there and what choices you can make in order to expand on your trips. We also never go south in the winter to resorts and to golf....we save our travel $$ for going to Europe and want to go back and go back but have no need for 5* hotels and expensive meals.

I'm excited just thinking about it!!
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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:27 AM
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Neopolitan,

forget the 5 month jaunt, your upcoming 2 month trip w/ your partner clearly qualifies as a "trip of a lifetime".

Enjoy your lovely journey in all your favorite places.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:30 AM
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Just because someone has traveled more extensively than you have doesn't mean that each and every trip they take isn't in some way or another a "trip of a lifetime."

Every trip can be an "important" one whether it is your first or your fiftieth.

Nobody who is willing to remember their own first time and any disappointments and mis-steps that came along with it, should be the least bit amused, or naysaying about someone else's quest for the best information.

Sometimes what seems like "dismissive" and "harsh" advice is actually given with the intention of helping others make those same mis-steps.

Kindness, and true understanding, delivered in both directions is always appreciated.

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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:31 AM
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No one knows if the trip they are about to take is their last, or, if it is their first trip, their only. The advice that one need not try to see it all is excellent, regardless. You may choose to ignore it based on your own desires and needs, but spending your only week abroad in Paris or Rome or a small village in Tuscany may yield a richer experience than a week or two racing from site to site.

You know those romantic movies and novels in which the doomed lovers must cram a lifetime into a weekend? Would you be so teary-eyed if they spent the weekend promiscuously chasing down the widest assortment of lovers? ;^)





 
Apr 9th, 2006, 08:31 AM
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Sorry..meant to say that the advice is delivered with the intent of helping you avoid those mis-steps.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:36 AM
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Funny, but my wife and I just got back from a 21 day, 4300 car mile trip down the east coast and back.

In Europe, we would NEVER do that. We have been to the UK, France, and Italy many times. We almost never rent cars, we tend to stay in each place at least a week, and we strictly limit the number of places we go on a trip.

What these two kinds of trips have in common is that in neither do we care hugely about conventional tourist sites. A morning in a laundromat, supermarket or (happily still in the UK) Woolworths is just as interesting as a visit to conventional tourist spots. We do like historical sites and art and have been to many fine museums here and abroad, but we didn't even bother to see "Mona Lisa" until our third trip to the Louvre. We almost never shop and never bring home conventional souvenirs, but we eat a lot of delicious food in local cafes and enjoy trying to communicate with the locals in our versions of their languages, whether Italian, French, or Florida Cracker.

We took our first tour in Europe last fall and have booked another one this fall, both to places we would not expect to go again. We may change our mind and go back for a slow visit after we have been there.

I suppose my point is that some people do both kinds of travel.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:39 AM
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Intrepid1...
Absolutely true...Delivery is key.

I have perused this board for many years before I first post and was put off by some responses. Although valuable info, it could've been said in a much better tone.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:43 AM
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I am a recurrent traveler, and I have had the good fortune of accompanying, planning for and leading first-time trips for about three or four dozen people, whose ages have ranged from ten to seventy.

I think I have been well received when I helped each of them take their focus off the "once in a lifetime" notion. Without exception, they perceived their first-tinme trips as the best imaginable. The majority of those who followed me on their first time trips have traveled again since, often to further, less well-known destinations, sometimes on longer trips, sometimes to Asia, sometimes on shorter or more impulsive trips, some to study abroad, sometimes traveling solo and virtually all without my help.

In an ideal world, anyone who asks a question here - - that I can answer - - woul be my guest on a trip I would help plan and lead. And their hext trip(s) - - and they would almost certainly have next trips... would be quite devoid of the notion of a "trip of a lifetime".

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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:52 AM
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A further comment regarding the "negative tone" of some posters to "newbies". I have often seen a poster provide their itinerary and ask "what do you think?", and then get very indignant when posters tell them what they think. Often the tone doesn't become negative until after the original poster has changed his intent from "what do you think?" to "you people don't know what you're talking about, why are you so negative about my trip".
 
Apr 9th, 2006, 08:54 AM
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Okay, I probably went on the deep end by mentioning "trip of a lifetime". That alone has opened a can of worms.

A little background info would probably help....

We are planning our first trip abroad (21 days) to commemorate two milestones: my husband's 50th and our 10 year Anniversary. With that said, I should've mentioned that we're planning this trip in a manner to be as perfection as perfection can be. Something to remember...like a Honeymoon.

And again, respecting that each and every trip can have the most beautiful of memories that all can qualify as a "trip of a lifetime".
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Apr 9th, 2006, 08:59 AM
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Neopolitan,

Excellent point.

In a perfect world, don't we all want everyone to completely agree and support what we're thinking/doing without criticism. We forget sometimes that Advice comes a side of Criticism (or it is mistaken that way), but that's why we're here...to gain valuable info.





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Apr 9th, 2006, 09:21 AM
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From a film I once loved--Wanderlust can be a lifelong endeavor
I suspect it's impossible for some people to stay in one place for good, once they've left the city of their childhood


I, too , agree with julies about moving from one catagory to another.
When I was younger and not married, I would pick up and go with no thought to anything but going somewhere!
Then came children and I had to figure out how to bring them along
Now-the children take their own trips, the baby boy has way outnumbered the days in exotic places that I have visited! and wanders the world quite frequently, while mama is home more often.
But our quiet time is coming to an end and we are planning some big trips to more exotic lands..I think travel like most parts of life comes in "seasons" and the fluctuates as the years go by.
There is that third person who fits into a catagory that I would dread to fit into-the person who has no interest in going anywhere and cannot fathom why I do! lol.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 09:24 AM
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Hi - I just thought I would chime in, this is a great thread. I am currently in the second category, aspiring to be in the first As others have said, as you go through life, circumstances change. I have never before been in a position to spend much money on travel or take the time to do it. I worked my way through college and didn't have the opportunity to travel then as some people do - I could not afford to spend the money or take the time. After college, I started to travel a bit, but lack of vacation time kept it domestic. A year and a half ago, my husband and I achieved a major milestone and bought a house. Finally, we are in the position to travel. I suppose we could have started travelling a few years ago, but we had to make the house the first priority. We are going to Germany in July for 2 weeks It feels like a trip of a lifetime because I have never been to Europe. Our plan is for this to be the first of many.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 09:28 AM
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I have been in the travel business for approximately 20 years and I am planning my 12th trip to Europe in May. I use the Fodors and Slow Travel websites extensively when planning my vacation. I think the collective information compiled here by past travelers is a very valuable tool. There will certainly be differences of opinion when it comes to what people enjoy and their perception of different places, people, food, accommodation, points of interest etc. There was a time when I was perhaps taking my trips for granted and now that I travel less frequently...pay full price and can afford less time...I savour every minute as if it was the trip of a lifetime. My fond memories carry me through some tough months when the pressure of everyday life can get you down. Planning the trip and the anticipation leading up to the departure is half of the fun and this message board is a great place to get support and encouragement. I have read some postings that seem a little mean spirited from time to time but overall there is more good than bad. There are people like Stu Dudley that love travel and enjoy sharing their experiences which helps other people to get the most out of their holiday.
I want to thank all those people who take the time to write trip reports and share their advice. Keep the posts coming!!
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Apr 9th, 2006, 09:29 AM
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For me, every trip is a "trip of a lifetime". We have taken roadtrips in the US and in Europe. We have gone on organized tours. We have camped, stayed in posh hotels, B & B's, lighthouses, marginal hotels/motels, and have even done "self catering". Every trip comes with new adventure and experiences!!

There are a few regulars on a couple of these forums that nitpick other people's posts. It is easy to be put off by them, but just remember that they are probably a bit like that in "real life" as well; it is nothing personal. Everyone has their personality quirks.

Happy travels, and may every trip be the trip of your dreams!
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Apr 9th, 2006, 09:59 AM
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I'm like a lot of other people here: would occasionally take the "trip of a lifetime" (at 19, at 38, at 40 - the large gap was caused by graduate school and early years of seeking tenure), and now have finally managed to convince myself that I do actually earn enough money to travel more regularly. Though travel to Europe is probably not as inexpensive for me as it is for other Fodorites (my airport is DIA), with careful planning and saving I am turning into a far more frequent traveler.

My only complaint with some posts is that they ask large questions with very little information, such as, "I'm visiting the UK for three weeks next summer. What should I do?" But since I see the same lack of specificity in my students' emails, I wonder if this is a side-effect of the various forms of electronic communication, which sometimes seems bizarrely stuck between conversation and letter-writing - and is frequently less fulfilling than either.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 10:29 AM
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adv entureseeker- I fall into neither of those two categories.

I have always had a love of travel and took my first trip right out of college (first time I could afford it) to Jamaica with $100, my boyfriend, and a duffle bag (this was the 70's!)

Travel is a hobby for me and I "study" for it all the time. I subscribe to 3 different travel magazines, read and contribute to 4 different travel forums on a regular basis, quiz anyone I know who goes anywhere about what it was like, collect information on my trips so I remember the specifics if someone asks, etc.

I don't like the term "trip of a lifetime" because it implies there will only be one, or that one is better than others. I've traveled outside the U.S. maybe 25 times now, and hope to continue for the rest of my life.

By the way, it's not only Europe, I love tropical destinations so Caribbean, Mexico, and Hawaii figure in at least once a year. Europe I only get to every couple summers.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 10:33 AM
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<<to be as perfection as perfection can be.>>

adventureseeker- I caution you against this kind of expectation. Good trips have their high and low moments. Watch for surprises. Enjoy the ride! Again, not to sound negative to Newbies but I do not know anyone who has ever taken the perfect trip. And that's OK.
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Apr 9th, 2006, 10:49 AM
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suze..I guess it depends on what "perfect" means My first trip to Europe was unplanned (I was reading a guide book on the plane) and included getting a black eye when my TC hit the small wine bottle they give on the plane...it hit my eye and also spilled red wine on my white top!! He thought it was over right there LOL...and it was the perfect trip!!

And to agree with you...it was all about surprises and enjoying the ride!
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Apr 9th, 2006, 10:50 AM
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I traveled alot as a child and I was told what to see - now I am constantly planning but never going - shoot happens.
Trip Of A Lifetime doesn't sound good to me - too high expectations and disapointments lurking - tempting Fate.

Better check the weather
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