Egypt photos -May 2007

Jun 12th, 2007, 08:16 AM
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Egypt photos -May 2007

For anyone who is interested, I have posted photos of my recent visit with my family to Luxor. Not quite as exciting as our trip to Tanzania previously, it was still a very enjoyable experience and I hope the photos convey a flavour of the Nile Valley if you want a look.Her are the links, hope they work:

We stayed at the Jolie Ville Movenpick on Crocodile Island for a week at the end of May, and did the usual tourist excursions to the Valley of the Kings, Luxor, Karnak and Dendara temples. It was too hot, 43 degrees in the shade, to travel further afield, and out in the sun it really was too much to take in the sights properly – the guides were very well informed but we were just desperate to get in the shade or back on the air-conditioned coach. The heat on the day-cruise, four hours each way to Dendara and back, became very uncomfortable and we couldn’t wait to get back to Luxor. Some people enjoyed it though, and sun-bathed all day!

We found the Egyptian people to be friendly, polite, and courteous and all speaking very good English. Coaches, restrooms, shops and hotels we visited or used were all spotlessly clean, smart and modern. There were some appreciative comments in most places about my two teenage daughters (even from the passport control staff!) but they never felt uncomfortable in any way. The most serious, ancient looking tomb guide would have a smile and a joke for them.

We had a police escort to take us from our day-cruise stop on by coach to Dendara, (and there was a machine gun mounted on the boat), but it was so peaceful we never felt unsafe. Luxor itself was quiet, with few people or cars about, so as tourists we stuck out like a sore thumb to anyone who wanted us to hire their boat/caleche/taxi, but after a few attempts to get our business on board they gave up.
The hotel itself is set in beautiful grounds, and the sunset photos and egret/pied kingfisher shots are from there; sitting having a drink before dinner watching the Nile float by was just wonderful.
Given the opportunity I would happily go back, but at a cooler time of year so we could take more time to see and appreciate all the country ahs to offer.
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Jun 12th, 2007, 09:12 AM
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Thanks for the trip down memory lane!!!

We moved to Egypt in June 2001 (we were there 4 years) and spent our first Thanksgiving holiday at the Movenpick on Crocodile Island. The Christmas photo we sent out that year was taken on the dock by the hotel.

Of course, so soon after 9/11 - the whole of Luxor was deserted. When we toured the Valley of the Queens - we LITERALLY were the only people in there other than the guards. Of course, I did my best to "support the local economy" (ie - BUY STUFF!).

You're trip to Dnedara is quite interesting. I wish we had done that!

I am also so glad to hear you give such a positive review of Egypt. There have been a few postings recently that have upset me because they have been so negative. I have to believe that these people arrived in Egypt with minimal preparation or very unrealistic expectations. Egypt is a wonderful place, but it has it's problems and you have to be prepared for them. Flexibility and a sense of humor go a LONG WAY!!!!

It looks like my younger son (9th grade next year) and I will be travelling back to Cairo in the fall for a school-related event. Of course, once the Cairo school schedule is done, the visiting students will go to Luxor for a visit. That means another 3-4 days of lost school-time (with travel). When I told him that the only way we would let him go would be if he skipped the Luxor trip...he just laughed. He said, "Mom, I really like Luxor, but I've been there 3 times and I doubt there is anything new! If I go back, I want to go back as a family - not with a bunch of kids who really won't appreciate it." I guess living overseas has taught the boy something!

Thanks for the report and the photos! Glad you had a good trip!
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Re-reading my post with my morning caffeine made me realize the last paragraph didn't come out the way I intended!

The conversation with DS about the trip to Luxor was a long one. And we were remembering how much we all enjoyed the trips there. It was especially nice because both boys really understood the pharonic history because of the Egypt Culture and Egypt Civiliation classes they had in school.

AND one of the things we have really learned to enjoy about living overseas is the time we get to spend together - as a family - taking interesting trips/vacations. So, while I thought DS would WANT to go to Luxor with a bunch of his friends, I was really pleased to see that he would rather go back as a family!

That's what I get for trying to sum-up a long conversation when it's way past my bedtime!!!
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I think you did it beautifully the first time and I think you are very lucky to have a 9th grader that is that mature.

I think it says a lot about you as a parent, because I've sure seen my share of brats coming out of CAC that wouldn't be that bright or caring. Living overseas and going to school overseas obviously isn't the only majic that touched your son.
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Debbie - you are very kind!!! Thank you! (Oh - and I know my share of brats from CAC as well!)

I would love to get together with you and Sunshine007 when I get there in October! Will keep in touch as dates get closer!
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Jun 14th, 2007, 09:55 AM
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Wow! You took some gorgeous photos. What kind of camera did you use?

We just booked a 10-day trip to Egypt with a 5-day extension to Jordan in late October-early November. We're very excited to be going. I was surprised to see so many women wearing shorts and /or tank tops in your photos. Aside from the danger of terrible sunburn, I thought women were expected to wear long or cropped pants or skirts and nothing briefer on top than a t shirt. Are shorts acceptable at the monuments?

We went to Tanzania and Kenya a number of years ago, and think it was the best trip we've taken so far. I'd go back in a heartbeat, but there are so many other, unexplored places on our list!
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Thanks, those are great photos. While I've been to Egypt several times, my most recent visit was in 2001, so these were welcome reminders of how fascinating and beautiful it can be.

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Jun 14th, 2007, 12:25 PM
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I have just got an Olympus e-400; I have a Nikon D70 which I left at home because it is really heavy and I didn't want to have to carry it around everywhere, especially when we also had to carry big bottles of water. Don't know which would have taken the best pictures, but the Olympus is so light and doesn't have the hand grip which I find unbalances the D70 for me, might not for someone with larger hands!
To be honest, the sun was so bright most of the time it was hit and miss how the photos would come out because I couldn't see a thing in the viewfinder.
Thank you for the the nice comments, I found the Egypt we saw to be a beautiful and peaceful country, with stylish art and architecture. I loved the turquoise houses and boats,and the pale blue clothes the locals wear. I don't doubt that it's not all like that, but what we experienced was worth every penny.
I had wanted to see the Nile for years, especially since my late step-father had lived in Egypt as a child when his own step-father worked for the Egyptian railways in the 20's and 30's and knew Howard Carter. We still have a large Carter watercolour of an oasis, and my mother had some painted clay beads that came from Tutankhamun's tomb, sadly taken in a burglary a few years ago along with the rest of her jewellery, and probably thrown away because they looked so ordinary. This trip brought that history to life and I wasn't disappointed.
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Jun 14th, 2007, 12:34 PM
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Forgot to answer your question about clothing, sorry alexistar!There were female tourists in various stages of undress everywhere, which I felt was disrespectful in a country where women dress in such a different way, and I attempted to get my daughters to dress appropriately but they were so hot they didn't always want to wear long sleeves or trousers. I wore cotton or linen trousers and t-shirt or kaftan, but then I wear that at home! There was no negative reaction to tourists wearing shorts and skimpy tops, and no indication that I saw that anyone had been asked to cover up.I did think it encourage some comments and hassle at times,but when you are in a swimming pool one minute then a temple the next I guess some people don't even stop to consider what image they are presenting or whether anyone would consider it offensive.
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I was wondering if the sun would be too bright to see anything in the viewfinder of my little Canon. We have a Nikon D50 which I suppose my hubbie will want to bring. I think I'd rather bring the video camera if we're going to pack a bigger camera, but he'll carry it, so I guess he should decide which of the two to bring.

The heat shouldn't be nearly as bad when we're there in November, but I'm going to pack a pair of knee length shorts to wear on the boat if it's warm enough. Like you, I'll wear light weight khakis or loose linen pants with T shirts other times. I don't own a kaftan, but I plan on buying one in Cairo.
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alexistar - the dress "rules" are somewhat relaxed on the Nile cruises, visiting the monuments in Luxor and Aswan, and at the beach resorts. My boys' first "sighting" of a topless sun-bather was in Sharm!

As bradley57 mentioned - you will see all sorts of outfits. But I think your ideas are good. The shorts would be fine for the cruise and for visiting the monuments you'll see with the cruise. The khakis/linen pants would be quite acceptable for downtown Cairo, the museum, and the pyramids. Yes - I know - you will see shorts and tanks at the pyramids......but a little more conservative dress is best there.
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Jun 15th, 2007, 07:16 AM
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Thanks for the advice. It confirms what I thought was appropriate dress. Have any of you been to Egypt in late October-early November? How warm does it usually get in Luxor?
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Can't give you exact temps - but it can still be quite warm during the day - but the temps drop at night. I usually kept some sort of shall around to keep off the evening chill.
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alexistar, for weather stats see

bradley57, WOW, these are some of the best Egypt pics I've ever seen!! I loved the way you captured not only the sights, but the animals as well. I have never been much of a bird watcher, but it's really cool to see all of the different types of birds in Egypt. I also liked the dragonfly pic. Fabulous, thanks!!
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Jun 16th, 2007, 07:20 AM
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thanks for the compliment P_M, I am probably more interested in the wildlife than anything else, but you couldn't miss the birds which were constantly fishing and flying up and down the river in front of you. I only saw one ibis,which I didn't get to photograph, and one group of pelicans which swam past as our boat went past another so I only got them in the distance. I am fond of goats and donkeys, and there were lots of them!
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Beautiful shots you have here! I am headed there for a Youth Conference in two weeks and I can't see enough photos or read enough information! It is a trip of a lifetime! I cannot wait. I am a fifth grade teacher here in NJ... so this trip will give me lots to share in the fall!
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All your photos are beautiful, but I especially liked the misty-looking photos of the Nile with the lush vegetation, boats, etc. at different times of day. There is a "old world" look to them; I wonder if it's the light.

Thanks for posting an interesting report and the wonderful pics.
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Thank you for your kind words, Luisah, the light was so bright during the day I think the mist is really glare but it looked nice!
There were few signs of the modern world along the river, outside of the towns, and even in Luxor you could be forgiven for thinking you were in a different age, it was quite enchanting.
I appreciate that we saw just a small part of Egypt, and that there are places where there is poverty, noise and pollution, but our experience was close to perfect.
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