Rugby World Cup - is your team playing?

Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 06:46 AM
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thanks, flpab & northie. I'm glad to be back too.

yes, cold, it's a fun match. We're supporting Japan!!
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Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 06:56 AM
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Scotland taking advantage of their opportunities. Japan not so much.
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Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 06:58 AM
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Ann - the Japanese coach was calling for English support. Aren't you all Scots at heart?
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Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 08:06 AM
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cold - I ought to be [my maiden name is Scots] but we're all for the plucky underdog, especially one which has already done a bit of giant killing.

but the Scots are the "old enemy" to the English [or is it the other way round?]
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Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 09:55 AM
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>>New Zealand ALWAYS beats the Wallabies (and, indeed, everyone else)<<

Rubbish! The Wallabies had a good win over the All Blacks this year!

Mind you, the All Blacks clobbered them the following week.

And we beat Fiji this morning in Pool A
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Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 12:23 PM
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Well, I was joking. And Ann has officially joined the aul' enemy
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Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 01:34 PM
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Ah, Sheila, jokes.

they are the most difficult thing to get across on fodors, I think.

what you and I think is hilarious doesn't get past first base on the other side of the pond.

it doesn't stop us trying though.
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Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 02:49 PM
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NYTimes article called the Japan upset of s Africa perhaps 'the biggest upset in the history of sport' - now that is saying a lot.

Go Japan - is USA! USA! USA! still alive today?
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Old Sep 23rd, 2015, 04:40 PM
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Have to support Japan with its Australian - Japanese coach !!!
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Old Sep 24th, 2015, 11:03 AM
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Two hakas recorded now. This one was better than the last one. Let's see if the All Blacks improve as well.
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Old Sep 24th, 2015, 11:09 AM
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What's that black dude with the Afro playing for Japan all about - don't look Japanese.

Was talking to a Japanese about it - says quite a few on team are not Japanese but if they have one parent who is Japanese they can play for Japan or if they live in the country three years then too.

Maybe that is how Samoa beat the USA! Imported players?
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Old Sep 24th, 2015, 01:03 PM
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What's that black dude with the Afro playing for Japan all about - don't look Japanese.>>

Pal - I recognise that the US is an entirely homogenous WASP nation, but in case you hadn't noticed, the rest of the world has moved on. Many players move to different countries in order to play for different clubs, and once they have been resident for a number of years, they are qualified to play for those countries. plus, so long as you haven't played at a certain level for one country, if you qualify by birth [or by your parents' birth, or if your granny once ate a haggis if you want to play for Scotland] you can play for that country.

Many pacific islanders have gone abroad, mainly to NZ but also to the UK and other places to ply their trade, and so far as the "black dude" playing for Japan is concerned, don't the US have a few "black dudes" playing for them? why shouldn't Japan?

Other sports do the same thing - the England cricket team was once so full of South africans that when we played them, the joke was which team of south africans was better than the other!

of course this doesn't apply in the US as you only play sports that frankly, the rest of the world isn't interested in.
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Old Sep 24th, 2015, 10:40 PM
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We call them "kilted Kiwis", Pal. Glasgow Warriors has a Pacific Islander playing for them, known as the Weegie from Fiji. Sadly, since he actually DOES play for Fiji, he can never play for Scotland, no matter how much haggis he eats.

Also, you're just going to have to get over the fact that the USA has NEVER been higher ranked than Samoa.

Looking forward to Sunday, when it's our turn to hump the USA
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Old Sep 24th, 2015, 11:56 PM
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Nor should we forget the large number of Americans who were based in Japan since 1945, or indeed the large number of Koreans who have lived there even longer, or indeed the Ainu people. They all leave their mark...

Sounds like another Sarah Palin moment coming on, did she really say "those Native Americans should go back to Nativia"?
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Old Sep 25th, 2015, 09:21 AM
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Sheila, as a I may have mentioned upthread, we have a Fijian playing locally [for our team's traditional enemy, Camborne] who is in the Fijian squad, but hasn't had a game yet.

I really hope that he gets on the pitch at some point.

<<Also, you're just going to have to get over the fact that the USA has NEVER been higher ranked than Samoa.>>

and probably never will be.
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Old Sep 25th, 2015, 11:26 AM
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annhig - yes that all kind of ruined the nationalism thing - rooting for your country's team filled with immigrants who come there only to play a sport.
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Old Sep 25th, 2015, 01:44 PM
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annhig - yes that all kind of ruined the nationalism thing - rooting for your country's team filled with immigrants who come there only to play a sport.>>

well that's not a very charitable way of looking at things, Pal. Many of these "immigrants" have lived in their new countries for years, have partners and children, and never think of leaving. They contribute new ideas, their energy, & their great skills.

And somewhat ironic given that the vast majority of US sporting teams are full of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants [and probably a few 1st generation ones too].
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Old Sep 25th, 2015, 02:26 PM
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Naw annhig many sports stars are allowed in when normally they would not be - they contribute nothing but goals in soccer and whatever they count in rugby - the type you describe are bona fide residents for other reasons but I think are few - my Japanese friend told me about half his country's rugby team was just there the minimum three years to be rugby stars in a country lacking them.

so I'm only talking about them from what my Japanese friend said was happening - Japan ain't the most friendly country to real immigration like you describe and what is a just situation to play for the team you are a bona fide resident of not just some carpet bagger who can't get on their home country's team.

Japan has black players and there are I wager nearly no black immigrants to Japan except for sport.

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Old Sep 25th, 2015, 02:27 PM
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Well said, Cornish Annie. I love the multicultural mix, and all my Kiwi cousins.
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Old Sep 25th, 2015, 08:18 PM
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There has been a lot of criticism of the All Blacks in the NZ papers with their performance against Namibia. They won by a considerable amount but that doesn't seem to matter. It was the second team who haven't played together very much, and apparently there was so much stopping and starting in the second half that they couldn't get the momentum going.
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