Just buy your bottled water at the duty free?
Sep 12th, 2006, 04:40 AM
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Sorry to break up the fight. Last Saturday I enjoyed a few glassses of an excellent port that was purchased at the CDG duty free by a friend and brought on the plane back to the US. So duty free beverages are still ok, on some flights anyway, contrary to what a few posters stated above.
Sep 12th, 2006, 05:15 AM
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My mother flew from Seattle to JFK on Saturday and was astounded to see people removing water and soda from their carryons. The woman next to her had her sports bottle with a beverage of some sort. I posted this comment on flyertalk.com, the Delat Forum, and the response was that checking at the gate was spotty but that if it had been noticed in flight, her plane likely would have been diverted.
Sep 13th, 2006, 05:19 AM
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It appears that the policies regarding whether liquids can be bought at a Duty Free store and then delivered to the passenger as he or she boards are driven by whether flights are coming in to the U.S. from another country (as opposed to departing from U.S.), and whether a passenger on that incoming flight will be outside of a secured area when transferring flights. For example, flying from Vancouver BC to the US, all US customs inspections are performed at the Vancouver airport. Therefore, no liquids or gels are sold at any shops (Duty Free or not) once past Security, because there is no opportunity at that time to secure those liquids or gels in a checked bag. See the following link to TSA website: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...duty_free.shtm
Sep 13th, 2006, 05:59 AM
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by the way, in case you're flying into Oslo Airport (Gardermoen), there's a duty free store available when you land... just in case you don't want to spend your money at other duty free stores only to have your stuff taken away from you due to last minute arbitrary rules...
Sep 13th, 2006, 06:29 AM
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I cannot believe all the controversy the liquid ban has created. People are acting like this is the end of Western Civilization.
All water I have been served on airplanes has come from bottles. I have never felt the need to carry my own bottled water. Airline coffee is something else (I don't drink it because it invariably tastes awful).
Something looking like a water bottle could be filled with an explosive cocktail. We should be grateful for the extra level of protection and cooperate.
There are more important things in life than carrying chapstick, lip gloss, and the freedom to buy your own brand of bottled water.
All water I have been served on airplanes has come from bottles. I have never felt the need to carry my own bottled water. Airline coffee is something else (I don't drink it because it invariably tastes awful).
Something looking like a water bottle could be filled with an explosive cocktail. We should be grateful for the extra level of protection and cooperate.
There are more important things in life than carrying chapstick, lip gloss, and the freedom to buy your own brand of bottled water.
Sep 13th, 2006, 07:24 AM
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Sorry, but the liquid ban is NOT protecting you AT ALL!!!
Yes something looking like water could be a bomb and that same something could be strapped in a plastic pouch on the terrorist. So I cannot bring on water, but the terrorist "wearing" the bomb just got on..
LIWUIDS, LIGHTERS, and whatever other IDIOT thing the goverments come up with are NOT the problem.. EXPLOSIVES are the problem and knee jerk reactions just make you think you are safe they don't really protect you.
That said WHY is the LIQUID SOLD in the airport banned on the plane????? If it was DANGEROUS why is it IN the airport???
Yes something looking like water could be a bomb and that same something could be strapped in a plastic pouch on the terrorist. So I cannot bring on water, but the terrorist "wearing" the bomb just got on..
LIWUIDS, LIGHTERS, and whatever other IDIOT thing the goverments come up with are NOT the problem.. EXPLOSIVES are the problem and knee jerk reactions just make you think you are safe they don't really protect you.
That said WHY is the LIQUID SOLD in the airport banned on the plane????? If it was DANGEROUS why is it IN the airport???
Sep 13th, 2006, 07:53 AM
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The only problem I see with allowing people to bring water bottles purchased after going through security is, (1)what if security missed it or (2) what if someone who is a terrorist is working at the airport.
Sep 13th, 2006, 09:43 AM
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A lot of people can't think logically about this. Of course terrorists can have accomplices working in airports, that would be a prime tactic for them to do. To naively think nobody working in an airport could ever have anything to do with terrorists is silly. There are zillions of low-level service workers in various parts of airports (baggage handlers, cleaners, store clerks, etc) and it would not be that difficult to get something inside a bottle of liquid once someone bought it at duty free, nor to even provide them one with something in it.
Sep 13th, 2006, 10:38 AM
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If a terrorist can work at the airport and provide explosives at duty-free shops, then a terrorist can work for the food catering company and place the explosives directly on the airplane. The only real solution is to not allow liquids on board the airplane AT ALL, even the ones the airline supplies. Which I think is just going too far.
The real tragedy of the 9/11 attack was that the planes were taken over and used (flown) as a weapon to kill much more people than just the ones on board. That happened because the flight deck was not adequately protected. Had the terrorists merely blown up the planes, it would have been tragic still - but the massive loss of life would not have occurred like it did.
So when are they going to ban liquids from the subways?
The real tragedy of the 9/11 attack was that the planes were taken over and used (flown) as a weapon to kill much more people than just the ones on board. That happened because the flight deck was not adequately protected. Had the terrorists merely blown up the planes, it would have been tragic still - but the massive loss of life would not have occurred like it did.
So when are they going to ban liquids from the subways?
Sep 13th, 2006, 12:25 PM
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OK.
I am not allowed to bring liquids purchased in the airport on board the plane because "security might have missed the liquid at the checkpoint." So how does not allowing me to bring my water on help???? If security missed it then it's coming on safe or not. Do you think the terrorist is going to declare it at the entrance to the plane when he/she didn't declare it at the security checkpoint?
And how does NOT allowing me to bring water purchased at the airport deter the "terrorist working at the airport"? Why would they bother with trying to put thier dangerous liquids in the refrigerator in the gate area, wouldn't it make MORE sense to put the bomb directly where you want it to blow up????
I have just read that in England on flights OTHER then to the US they are allowing you to buy bottled water in the so called "sterile" area and carry it on the plane.
It appears that America is one of the few places where beverages magically aquire dangerous abilities as you carry them down the jetway. Maybe Ghostbusters could come drive the evil sprits out of the jetways????
And as someone pointed out in this thread....Did the TSA just discover this 10 year old threat??? Doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling....
I am not allowed to bring liquids purchased in the airport on board the plane because "security might have missed the liquid at the checkpoint." So how does not allowing me to bring my water on help???? If security missed it then it's coming on safe or not. Do you think the terrorist is going to declare it at the entrance to the plane when he/she didn't declare it at the security checkpoint?
And how does NOT allowing me to bring water purchased at the airport deter the "terrorist working at the airport"? Why would they bother with trying to put thier dangerous liquids in the refrigerator in the gate area, wouldn't it make MORE sense to put the bomb directly where you want it to blow up????
I have just read that in England on flights OTHER then to the US they are allowing you to buy bottled water in the so called "sterile" area and carry it on the plane.
It appears that America is one of the few places where beverages magically aquire dangerous abilities as you carry them down the jetway. Maybe Ghostbusters could come drive the evil sprits out of the jetways????
And as someone pointed out in this thread....Did the TSA just discover this 10 year old threat??? Doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling....
Sep 13th, 2006, 04:33 PM
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We flew from Gatwick to Newark at the end of August. As others have mentioned all liquids, gels, lipstick etc. had to be discarded or checked before security.
Once inside security passengers going to all destinations but the US could purchase any item and carry it on the plane -- passengers on US flights could not bring any liquid, gels, etc. on. There were signs posted all over explaining this.
The most interesting part was that as we entered the duty-free shop zone inside security we were given a flyer with "late-breaking news" saying that passengers on Virgin flights going to the US could purchase any item in the official duty free store at least 80 minutes before take off and these would be delivered to the gate. So those flights were allowed to bring water, lipstick etc. on as long as it was purchased from the correct store at the correct time.
Once inside security passengers going to all destinations but the US could purchase any item and carry it on the plane -- passengers on US flights could not bring any liquid, gels, etc. on. There were signs posted all over explaining this.
The most interesting part was that as we entered the duty-free shop zone inside security we were given a flyer with "late-breaking news" saying that passengers on Virgin flights going to the US could purchase any item in the official duty free store at least 80 minutes before take off and these would be delivered to the gate. So those flights were allowed to bring water, lipstick etc. on as long as it was purchased from the correct store at the correct time.
Sep 13th, 2006, 05:31 PM
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I usually travel with a water bottle not because the water provided by the airline isn't "good enough", but rather because they are pretty stingy with it (at least on domestic flights). I wouldn't mind not bringing my own if I could get more than (2) 3 oz servings on a 6 hour cross country flight.
I was amused to note that the TSA allows gel filled bras. (I realize that they are prostheses/medical devices for some women, not just a vanity item, and that is why they are allowed.) If I wanted to carry liquid/gel explosive components onboard, it would be in a bra insert that nobody will see (easily removed in bathroom), not in a water bottle.
I was amused to note that the TSA allows gel filled bras. (I realize that they are prostheses/medical devices for some women, not just a vanity item, and that is why they are allowed.) If I wanted to carry liquid/gel explosive components onboard, it would be in a bra insert that nobody will see (easily removed in bathroom), not in a water bottle.
Sep 14th, 2006, 03:17 PM
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Sep 14th, 2006, 04:38 PM
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Since when have books been banned as carry-ons to Britain?
Perhaps someone thought those "rubber bands" could be used as weapons?
But the author involved always has been a great "story" teller.
Perhaps someone thought those "rubber bands" could be used as weapons?
But the author involved always has been a great "story" teller.
Sep 14th, 2006, 04:41 PM
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And here is an excerpt from the British Airways site describing banned items to the UK:
"Other items normally carried in cabin baggage, such as books and essential items for the flight, as long as they fit into a bag no bigger than 45cm x 35cm x 16cm."
Perhaps that manuscript was HUGE!!!!
"Other items normally carried in cabin baggage, such as books and essential items for the flight, as long as they fit into a bag no bigger than 45cm x 35cm x 16cm."
Perhaps that manuscript was HUGE!!!!
