nessundorma

I have found myself over the past two days of reading Fodor's hoping dearly that people like bardo and the chapstick addicts will decide to stop flying because of the new regulations.

I'm also trying to dream up a way to create a scare about people who put their seats into the recline position. I want the airlines to ban that too.

nessundorma

The Chapstick Addicts

Anybody want to start a band?

logos999

>into the recline position
It's like in a movie theatre, the person in front of you always is the tallest of them all... I could afford business class, but no way I'm spending this much money! click, click, click...

bardo1

nessundorma,

Please clarify why you dearly hope I stop flying (BTW, I have no plans to stop).

I simply asked a "what if" question: If the airport staff hand delivers duty free goods to the boarding gate and then the airline staff then hands you the purchase as you board, where's is the risk? I never suggested anyone should trust ME, but reagarding the scenario idly suggested above the only reason to object would be if the authorities suspected all airline staff of being terrorists. If all airline staff ARE suspect, then why would ANYONE fly?

AR

It is far more than just bottled water. For US bound flights, all liquid items including drinks, shampoo, hair gels, perfume, suntan lotion and contact lens solution are banned - even if purchased air-side.

For non-US bound flights, duty free drinks and perfume are allowed as well as bottled drinks purchased air-side.

The biggest concern is over babies milk. This has to be opened and tasted by an adult in front of staff before being allowed on board. This is difficult because formula milk starts to degrade the moment it is opened and therefore non-sterile. For a long haul flight, there would be a health and safety issue with feeding a baby degraded or "old" milk. I just hope that the airlines have supplies on board.

RufusTFirefly

6 liters of water on a trans-atlantic flight! Holy, moly you must be in the WC most of the flight.

Over 200 ounces--the recommend amount per day is around 60 to 100 depending on your size and activity level.

200 can't be all that good for you (unless it's a very long flight)--or unless you're on a very hot aircraft and sweating like an NFL lineman in an August preseason game.

LN

First of all there are Fodorites who truly practice being a pleasant, informative Fodorite.

Then there are Fodorites who believe their only mission in life is to criticize all posts/statements/questions.

I wish people would re-read what they intend to post and either delete it as unworthy or correct it. And I am referring to you Nesundorma. Your comments were completely off-base.

nessundorma

Oh tosh.

There have been so many stupid questions about not bringing liquids aboard a flight, you can't expect people to keep taking them seriously. If bardo won't drink the bottled water on the plane ("Eeeeek! The bottle was *opened*!!!!! I can't drink that!&quot then maybe flying on mass transport is really not for him or her.

Save your pennies and buy into one of those programs where you can lease a private jet on a regular basis. The rest of us have no illusions we are taking a bus that flies.

To everybody else,

After we get rid of the unopened bottled water and chapstick crowd, any chance we can convince airport security that babies can be used as weapons, in addition to getting people who recline their seats onto a terror watch list?

Marko

MMMmmm, I have seen a baby explode !! Crap everywhere ! Maybe there is a case there for a seperate airline for babies ! Where is that emoticon for "tongue in cheek"?

Ian

Well gypsies use babies as weapons . . . well, maybe just a distraction . . .

Ian

mari5

I always carry two small bottles of water in my carryon...for before, during , a flight.(for hydration, taking a pill perhaps, and supplimenting the airline water) I REALLY hate to see this ban in effect, however I'll just have to ADAPT, and be glad that security is keeping on top of these things.
When I finish a bottle, I have, on occasion walked to the back and asked the flight attendant to fill my bottle. They very graciously do this FROM a large 2 ltr. bottle!!! Fine with me. But now, of course this won't happen. I hate to think of a l0 hr flight without MY water, but I'm SURE I will survive!!!
I first thought the news was that we could purchase water AFTER going through security, but apparently this is not true. RIGHT?

francophile03

Yes. You can purchase your water after clearing security. But you either have to finish it all before you board or throw it away. They won't let you board the plane with the bottled water.

rex

Is there any reason to believe that TSA would remove a completely empty water bottle from your carry-on?

A cup? A collapsible cup? A paper cup? A whole stack of them?

With the increased time we will all be s[pending at the airport (I arrived 100 minutes before my flight this morning, Louisville to Detroit, connecting onward to Montana - - and I sat at the gate 70+ minutes) - - is it so unreasonable that we might wish to fill such a container from the water fountains readily available in the concourse?

I will gladly empty it before boarding.

Sarvowinner

Some enlightened airlines such as Qantas provide you with a small bottle of water. You can always have it refilled. They don't tend to give it until after the meal service, perhaps they will give ia larger one at the beginning. This will save a lot of time for the FAs.

I think I saw a post yesterday saying you can buy books airside? Any confirmation?

CAPH52

I'm a little confused by all the comments I've read on Fodor's the past couple of days about airline water or lack thereof. When we flew to Ireland on AA this past March we were given our own sealed bottles of water. I believe twice during each flight. I also saw people ask for and be given bottles at other times during the flight.

Yes, I understand that it's preferable to be able to bring on your own water. But, judging from our experience, it seems unlikely that anyone will die of thirst or be forced to drink "unclean" water.

tomboy

This is for those who question the logic of the "no liquids" policy:
Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), the oxidizer of the explosive-du-jour of the Islamic fascists, is not visually different from water. Triacetone, the other component, is also a clear liquid. And since one of the 24 Pakibrits arrested had a job with security clearance at Heathrow, one couldn't rule out the potential of that person sneaking the explosive combo to a boarding collaborator.

kerouac

In any case, if the "no liquid" rule is generalized around the world (China was the first country to do it after a passenger plane was blown up with liquid years ago -- how come nobody noticed this?), fares will increase again, since duty free shops finance a large part of the airport infrastructure. One way to make things less painful would be to authorize duty free purchases upon arrival, as is practiced in a lot of Asian and Middle Eastern countries. The only problem is that most of us want to get out of the airport as fast as possible upon arrival, not go shopping.

francophile03

I noticed that some airlines like Air France, Lufthansa and US Airways, for example, serve water from large bottles. No one I saw has complained and demanded a sealed, personal bottle.

PrincessOfPenguins

The water should be given to passengers for free, not sold.

CarolA

May I suggest those of you, who like me think that this is one of the all time STUPID moves by our govermental authorities, LET THEM KNOW!

I have sent emails to the TSA and ALL of my elected officials in DC asking WHY water sold in the gate area is SAFE there, but takes on "Dangerous" qualities when it goes down the jetway??

Either it was screened and was safe or it wasn't and should be removed, it's not "Kindof" safe. (Or has it NEVER occured to the IDIOTS that run the security that a terrorist MIGHT decide that blowing up the gate area would be just as nice as blowing up a plane....)