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Itinerary for Italy - Venice/Florence/Rome/Naples

Old Feb 17th, 2014, 07:03 AM
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Itinerary for Italy - Venice/Florence/Rome/Naples

This forum has been such a great source of feedback as we continue to research the places we want to see on our first trip to Spain & Italy in June. Here is where we are at in our plans right now.

June 14 - Arrive in Barcelona at 12:30pm
June 19 - RyanAir flight to Venice arriving at 12:40pm
June 22 - Train to Florence. Trains every hour all day but will probably leave approx 10am arriving in Florence by Noon.
June 25 - Train to Rome. Again trains every hour. Probably spend the morning in Florence and arrive in Rome by mid-afternoon.
July 1 - Fly home.

This leaves us with Barcelona (4.5 days), Venice (2.5 days), Florence/Tuscany (3 days), Rome (5.5 days - 1 day trip to Pompei).

We were originally hoping to make a detour to CT or SML, but it just didn't fit well into our itinerary logistically. But I still feel that while in Italy, I MUST get to the coast somewhere as the scenery and architecture of the coastal towns are breathtaking. So as I did more research, I read about Sorrento and the Amalfi Coast in Naples. Since we are already planning on going to Pompeii, we are now trying to figure out how we can spend a day or two in Naples to check out Pompeii and Sorrento.

I am thinking we have two options:

#1 - Instead of flying to Venice from Barcelona, fly directly to Florence. Basically, drop Venice all together and use those couple of days for Naples instead. I'd rather not do this as I would like to at least see Venice even if for a short visit.

#2 - Cut Venice down from 2.5 days to 1.5 days and go with this Itinerary.

June 14 - Arrive in Barcelona at 12:30pm
June 19 - RyanAir flight to Venice arriving at 12:40pm
June 21 - Train to Florence. Leave approx 10am arriving in Florence by Noon.
June 24 - Train to Naples. Connection Train or Taxi to Pompei. Spend afternoon in Pompei and then go to Sorrento. Spending evening and next full day in Sorrento.
June 26 - Train to Rome.
July 1 - Fly home.

This changes things so we have Barcelona (4.5 days), Venice (1.5 days), Florence/Tuscany (2.5 days), Naples (1.5 days for Pompei & Sorrento), Rome (4.5 days).

Again, I realize that my time in Venice is short but I think it might be enough time to see the core of Venice. We are not really into modern art or paintings, so we are not likely to check out Peggy Guggenheim. We are primarily going for the scenery, architecture and soaking up some of the history of the city. We are also thinking of making Rome our final stop as we fly home from Rome.

Do you guys think this is doable? I know its a lot of moving around between Venice/Florence/Naples but at least we get to see these places rather than having to skip one.
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Old Feb 17th, 2014, 07:58 AM
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Yeah, you are moving around. Before going further, I noticed you included a RyanAir flight. If you are not an experienced RyanAir traveler, make sure you understand how they work. It is a low cost carrier where it derives actual profit from fees by strict enforcing of terms. Also, you know that you will not be landing in Venice, but in Treviso. It is not that far away from Venice.
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Well, now you're giving yet another place not enough time. Actually 2 places, Venice and the Amalfi coast. I assume that's what you want to see if you're interested in picturesque hillside towns. Sorrento is a bigger town and it's not on the Amalfi coast; it's around the corner on the gulf of Naples. And Pompeii is between Naples and Sorrento. And there's lots to see from Sorrento: Herculaneum, Capri, the AC, Mt. Vesuvius, Naples, Paestum -- for which you don't have enough time, especially considering transportation issues (time, frequency of trips). Save this for another trip.

If you like small towns, you'd enjoy visiting the islands in the Venetian lagoon, especially Burano. And maybe check out the beach on the Lido. So plenty to fill your time in Venice.

If you must go to the coast, do a daytrip to the Cinque Terre from Florence.

But in general stick to your most recent itinerary minus the trip to Sorrento. Do a day trip to Pompeii from Rome. Resist, resist adding more stops. Less is more. I know the more you research, the more places you want to go. But with so much to see in Italy, you'll be returning on future trips.
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Old Feb 17th, 2014, 12:00 PM
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Regarding RyanAir - Yes, I noticed that they charge you approx 25 euros per luggage on top of air fare. Besides that I did not notice any hidden fees.

At first we looked at CT and then SML and now Sorrento/Amalfi Coast. So I think my gut is telling me that I do really want to visit a place with a picturesque scenery along the coast. But I am also interested in Venice. I think I realize I can't do both so it is a tough decision...
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Ok, this is something you really want to do. By juggling when you move and change hotels, from earlier, later or the night before, it is actually doable, even if a bit rushed and tight. If I wanted to see something so much, I would do it, and the AC is totally worth it, IMHO.

You plan to go as far as Pompeii anyway, and use a whole day from Rome to do it, so here are ways you could make it work.

One, and I would do this in a heartbeat. Take a day from Barcelona, so move the whole plan up a day, ending with an extra day at the end. Personally, three days (4 nights) is fine for Barcelona, and it allows you to accomplish something you want very much to do.

Then, I would change the transfer from Venice to Florence to the evening before. That still gives you two whole days in Venice and two evenings, which is enough time at night. Your plan doesn't add any real sight seeing time to Venice anyway, just a night's stay there. Getting to Florence a night early puts you there for an early start the next day.

Train straight from Florence to Naples to Sorrento for two or three nights.
Train to Rome for three uninterrupted days.

Looks like this - days, not nights
June 14, arrive Barcelona afternoon
June 15, 16, 17 Barcelona
June 18, fly to Venice, settle in by mid afternoon
June 19, Venice
June 20, Venice until very late afternoon (5, 6 or even 7 p.m.) train to Florence. This gives you the day in Venice. Leave your luggage at your hotel or take it to the train station storage for the day.
June 21, 22, 23 Florence & other area of Tuscany
June 24, take very, very early train to Sorrento via Naples
June 25, 26, the AC and Pompeii
June 27, take very early train to Rome, arrive by noon.
June 28, 29, 30 Rome
July 1, fly home

Other option, if you can't take a day from Barcelona.
June 21, Train from Venice to Florence very late
June 22, 23, 24, Florence & other area of Tuscany
June 25, take early train from Florence to Sorrento, via Naples
June 26, tour the AC
June 27, with luggage, train to Pompeii, stash it in luggage storage. Tour Pompeii. Train to Rome
June 28, 29, 30 Rome
July 1 fly home
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Old Feb 17th, 2014, 04:22 PM
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Your changes are very interesting. Thank you so much for the details. I do really like the fact that I still have almost 2.5 days for Venice and 3 full days for Florence/Tuscany.

The only concern I have is that I am cutting too much time from the 2 major places I will be visiting (Barcelona & Rome). Do you really think that 3 days is enough for these? Especially Rome? I know that Barcelona is very compact, which is helpful but Rome isn't quite as compact and I hear the lineups to get into certain sites like the Vatican or the Colosseum can take up a good chunk of time.

What about this...Take a day from Barcelona like you said. Everything else is the same except I leave Naples 1 day earlier so I have 4 FULL days in Rome. Do you think this would make sense? Of course it all depends on train schedules how late I can get them.

June 24, take very, very early train to Sorrento via Naples. 1/2 day and evening in Sorrento.
June 25, Pompeii
June 26, Tour AC and then take late train to Rome.
June 27, 28, 29, 30 Rome
July 1, fly home
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Vueling flies from Barcelona to Venice Marco Polo for $90 or less on that day. If it were me, I would fly them.
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Old Feb 17th, 2014, 04:36 PM
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dfourh - I agree and would prefer to fly with Vueling because they fly to the more convenient airport but the problem is the flight times. 6am or 2pm. So I either have to wake up in the middle of the night for the early flight or lose a day with their mid day flight.

RyanAir has a much more convenient flight at 10am.

I think both are pretty much the same price as well. Approx 50 euro plus luggage.
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I haven't done detailed research, but some things to consider are: RyanAir charges 10 Euro more for a 20kg (44lb) bag than for a 15kg (33lb.) bag; their bus takes 50 minutes, costs 10e, and puts you at Mestre, so you still have to get into Venice proper (as opposed to ~5e from Marco Polo 20 minutes to P.Le Roma in Venice proper).

The Vueling, if you get the combo that includs a 23kg (50lb) bag and seat assignment included is 80 Euro for that mid-day flight, and if you consider the transfers, that 340pm arrival on Vueling isn't that much more extreme than 2pm arrival at Treviso, but I've never used Ryanair, so maybe others will have opinions on the Treviso vs. MarcoPolo comparison.
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Nightfawl,

That would work, but I would
June 25, tour the AC.
June 26, visit Pompeii on way to Rome
Geographically and logistically, it works better.

You do not want to rush the day you are touring the AC. You want to savor it. Take a whole day, don't be worrying about the longish trip back to Rome, checking into the hotel, etc. Instead, end the day with a nice dinner someplace in Sorrento, overlooking the bay of Naples.

Pompeii is right on the train line returning to Rome, so you are not backtracking or wasting any time. You would not have to hurry or rush, just get up when ever you wanted, catch the train to Pompeii (30 - 45 minutes), tour at leisure, train on to Rome in time for a nice dinner.

As far as time in each place, etc., some people love the AC, some find it too touristy, etc. Perhaps because they were some of the first places I visited and they are like first loves, Venice and the AC are my two favorite places that I have been. There are no words to adequately describe Venice, and (totally personal opinion and experience), the AC is as spectacular (more so, IMHO) as Hawaii and the Greek Islands. I have been four times and my bucket list includes going one more time.

Barcelona is a wonderful city, but no more so than Paris, Rome, etc. so it depends on your personal interests. With each visit, Rome has grown on me and Barcelona has not. If you are decently organized, three days is enough to see major sights in Barcelona. I would not want you to miss something you really wanted to see there, but your great desire for scenery makes me think you will wish you had allotted more time on the AC.

Whatever choices you make, this will, in the end, be an incredible and fabulous trip. You will be happy and have great memories about every place.
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Will easy jet work for you? We are using it to fly from Copenhagen to Rome next month, seemed reasonable fares and not as strict as Ryan Air. Just a thought.
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Old Feb 17th, 2014, 08:09 PM
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So am I correct in thinking that your current plan is:

June 19 - RyanAir flight to Venice arriving at 12:40pm
June 21 - Train to Florence. Leave approx 10am arriving in Florence by Noon.
June 24, take very, very early train to Sorrento via Naples. 1/2 day and evening in Sorrento.
June 25, Pompeii
June 26, Tour AC and then take late train to Rome.
June 27, 28, 29, 30 Rome
July 1, fly home

It depends on what you want to see and experience, but I think you are shortchanging Venice, Florence/Tuscany, Naples, the Amalfi Coats, and Rome. Just my opinion. Maybe I don't understand why you want to see these places.
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You might want to avoid backtracking because it is a time-waster.

Venice-Florence-Rome-Naples. Fly home from Naples instead of backtracking to Rome. That is what I would do.

Otherwise, you really need to decide what is most important for you to see. I personally think you have too many cities on this trip. But that is because I like to "experience" a place, I don't want to look back at pictures and that is all I have because we did so much, we cannot remember where we were or what we did there.

You lose 1/2 day minimum with each move. (Repacking, checking out with enough gap time to make your train, train ride, getting to new hotel, checking in, unpacking.)

You might just consider doing Spain next trip, and adding more days to Venice/Florence/Rome. Food for thought.

Have a great trip!
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PS It is going to be crowded and possibly very warm in June, so do consider that also with the number of times you have to move locations and the limited time in Venice and Florence.
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I hope not because it is still backtracking and adding travel to the end of the day on the AC tour.

Doesn't this work better?
June 19, depart Barcelona as early as possible, settle into Venice by noon. Walk and explore
June 20, Venice - visit one of the islands if that is important
June 21, Venice - seeing major sights, walking etc.
Depart very late evening for Florence, just in time to check into hotel and have dinner. Florence is small, no problem finding your way around.
June 22, 23, 24 Florence and Tuscan countryside.
June 25, very early train from Florence to Sorrento via Naples. Relax, look at the views.
June 26, tour the AC by boat, or car, late dinner in Sorrento, overlooking Bay of Naples. I am serious about making this a day to stay and not rush back to Rome.
June 27, train to Pompeii, store luggage, leisurely tour Pompeii, train to Rome in time to settle into hotel and have a nice dinner.
June 28, 29, 30, Rome
July 1, fly home

Venice, 2 nights, 1/2 day, 1 full day, most of the next day, so altogether, a little more than 2 days.
Florence, 4 nights, 3 full days
Pompeii & AC, 2 nights, 1/2 day, 1 whole day, most of the next day - basically 2&1/2 days.
Rome, 4 nights , 3 full days

Some might suggest visiting Pompeii on the way from Florence to Sorrento, but that trip is longer and your time there would be rushed. Visiting Pompeii on the way back to Rome will give you plenty of time to enjoy the experience, and still have an early evening in Rome to be up and ready for the next day.

Someone in a recent post pointed out how carefully they thought about the time of day they moved about and if it made a difference in the amount of quality time they had in a place. That is my thinking here.
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I'm thinking this is definitely doable. I just need to decide if I want to take a day away from Barcelona or Rome. Its a tough decision.

So to summarize, the itinerary will stay the exact same after I depart Barcelona. The decision is whether to depart Barcelona on the 18th or 19th.

If I decide to leave on the 18th and give the extra day to Rome, it looks like this:

June 14, arrive Barcelona afternoon
June 15, 16, 17 Barcelona
June 18, fly to Venice (RyanAir 10:40am departure or Vueling 6:50am departure)
June 19, Venice
June 20, Venice until very late afternoon (5, 6 or even 7 p.m.) train to Florence. Leave luggage at hotel or take it to the train station storage for the day. Leaving for Florence by train the next morning is an option as well.
June 21, 22, 23 Florence & other area of Tuscany
June 24, take earliest (I think 9am) train to Sorrento via Naples. Spend afternoon/evening in Sorrento.
June 25, Tour Amalfi Coast
June 26, Train to Pompeii, store luggage at train station, tour Pompeii, train to Rome in time to settle into hotel and have a nice dinner.
June 27, 28, 29, 30 Rome
July 1, fly home

Barcelona (3.5 days), Venice (2 days combined), Florence/Tuscany (3 days), Pompeii/Sorrento/AC - (2 days), Rome (4 days).
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Personally, I'd give the time to Rome. Rome is the "Eternal City." Not yet been to Barca but have read about it and I don't find that it has the range of things that Rome does. Even after several stays in Rome, we still find new and interesting things to do.
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