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Old Apr 14th, 2014, 08:09 PM
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Here is a thread from another forum that is about the planning/not planning question. You might find it interesting markan.
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 12:34 AM
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There are some rooms in Dublin during Garth Brooks at a huge Cost even the Premier Inn out by the airport Doubles the price for a night those 3 days.. And No there was not a central room on the day of last years Notra Dame Game. or in Ennis a couple of nights during last years Fledh, Clifden Trad Fest changed its dates so as not to clash with the Golf a couple of years ago as there was just not enough accommodation for both when clashing with Galway Oyster Festival..
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 06:14 AM
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dulciusexasperis, you searching on is inaccurate because you only checked for Friday night. The festival starts on Friday night and runs through Monday. If you change your search to May 2nd to May 5th you will find nothing available within 5 miles. Yes I did this by searching various websites like Can you recommend another way of finding out? I thought the best way to see if a place was fully booked was to first check online.

The fact that there is a fairly popular festival going on in the town that weekend and everything (from an online view anyhow) within 5 miles is booked would seem to indicate to me that it was wise to book in advance.

Now is there an outside chance I could wing it and show up on Friday and manage to find a room for three nights. Yes I admit that is possible. Highly unlikely but possible. But why take the chance? Why not just book well in advance and be certain we'll have a place to stay?

I really cannot believe that you would advocate to me to just wing it and show up in Kinvara on May 2nd and hope for the best. Surely you cannot really believe that is the best approach for someone that really wants to stay in town for that festival.

So in conclusion you may be right. There may be a bed to rent when I show up. I can't prove there won't be. But that isn't my point. My point is that isn't it better to just reserve in advance since I KNOW 100% that I want to be there May 2nd until May 5th?
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 06:23 AM
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Also what my example is trying to prove is not whether or not there will be a free bed to rent in Kinvara on May 2nd to the 5th. You're right I really can't prove that from where I'm sitting. But what I am suggesting is that winging it is NOT always the best approach and sometimes booking in advance is not because of "unsubstantiated" fear but out of a very real concern that there may not be something available. I think that you attempting to argue about this is really a stretch attempting to defend your indefensible opinion.

Here's an idea. Why don't you show up in Kinvara on day one of this event, doesn't have to be this year, and see if you can find a room in town for 3 nights. Let us know how you make out.
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 07:53 AM
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Another few, SMALL considerations that has NOTHING to do with fear:
If you want to stay at a SPECIFIC location, it only makes sense to book into that place.

From a tourist standpoint, there is a HUGE difference to staying IN town, rather than "within 20 kilometers" of town.

When I travel to Ireland (usually once or twice a year), I often leave in a few open (and unscheduled) days -- but, MOST of my nights are pre-booked for the very reasons that I just listed. Typically, an 'average' visit, for me, is three weeks.

For the typical tourists from North America, however, a 7-10 day trip, with VERY specific goals is more the norm. In that case, if you KNOW that you will be visiting Points A, B and C, why wouldn't you Pre-book into 'vetted' accommodations, rather than spend part of each day 'Hunting'?
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 12:44 PM
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"Here is a thread from another forum that is about the planning/not planning question. You might find it interesting markan."

I did find it interesting thanks. And reading it I realize you and I are talking about two different things. I'm talking about a "vacation" and you're talking about "travelling". I don't see the need nor have the desire to wing it since I'm going on a vacation. Enough said.
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 01:17 PM
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So let's look at this in the context of a US trip.

Are you happy if you pull into, say, Florence, South Carolina, without a reservation and have a choice between Motel 6 or the Red Roof Inn?

Yes, they have rooms available; yes, you preserved your flexibility to visit South of the Border, but is this a happy outcome?

I have not traveled through Ireland but have had my share of mildewed rooms in England and Scotland. I am here to tell the tale. But I would prefer to minimize those experiences if I am spending the money to go abroad
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 02:17 PM
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Sigh, I did not "advocate to just wing it and show up in Kinvara on May 2nd and hope for the best" markan. If someone is only going to ONE place for a given period of time and they choose to pre-book I see no problem with that.

I've been known to book a package holiday to a beach for a week. But that is NOT what the OP is doing here and not what I was writing about.

You got it right, most people are talking about a vacation and I'm talking about travelling. But if you look at my first response on this thread you will find, " But not all travellers are tourists on a tour. If you want the freedom that a tour cannot give you then you cannot book ahead. It is as simple as that. So since you say you want that freedom (which I applaud), there is no point in asking the question about reservations. Forget about them except for the first night in Dublin."

The OP specified they wanted the freedom. So the only question is whether they can go without reservations or not and of course, the answer is you can.

If I got to Kinvara and the festival appealed to me, I'd find a room. Whether in town or 10km out of town doesn't matter to me. Close enough.

I never KNOW where I will stay or why or for how long Itallian_Chauffer. That is the whole point of travelling without a plan. You stay where you want, when you want for as long as you want. When you are ready and not before, you decide which direction to move on in next.

YOU are the one who imposes on yourself the limitation of having to get to a SPECIFIC place. I don't care if I go to that place or another place. What I care about is whether or not I enjoy each day.

I really don't know how else to say it. Winging it always has been more valuable to me than the security of a reservation. I like not knowing where I will go next. Occasionally, I'm a tourist going to A for a week of sun and sand or whatever and then back home. But usually, I'm a traveller going where the road takes me, there is no destination I have to get to.

That's what the OP asked if they could do, not what YOU would do. The OP doesn't need reservations to travel.

I come from a different place
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 02:44 PM
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Sorry Ackislander, missed your comments which I take it are addressed to me.

OK, your example is fine as far as it goes. If I arrive in Florence and all there was is a Motel6, it will depend if I am on my own or with my wife (I'm being scrupulously honest here). If I'm alone Motel6 is fine. It's just a bed for a night. I'm not gonna stay in Florence for a week or more.

If my wife is with me then Motel6 is not fine. We won't stop in Florence, SC. Simple as that. We'll simply go somewhere else. I'll look at the map and say, 'hmm, there's a Hampton Inn a couple of miles south down the road in Effingham. But hang on a second, there's a Fairfield just to the north in Hartsville and look, the Carolina Sandhills National Wildlife Refuge is just up past that. What about checking that out tomorrow. There's a lake up that way too, Lake Robinson, wonder what's like?'

The assumption is always that someone wants to be in a specific place. Why?

On a recent road trip we decided we wanted to visit Bandolier National Monument. We were in Santa Fe when we decided. Bandolier is just a few miles away. We did not leave home planning to go to Bandolier. We weren't even aware it existed.

So we drove up there, parked at the visitor centre and took the shuttle bus into the Monument. After a half day hike around the main loop it was clear to us that we would like to spend more time in that area. So we went back to the Visitor centre to our car and drove across the road to a Hampton Inn. Very convenient.

When I asked if they had a room the desk clerk asked 'for how many nights?' As they do right. I said, 'I don't know, let's say a week and if we decide to leave before that I'll let you know the night before.' No problem. We ended up staying 5 nights and then leaving.

Have you heard of Bandolier, Valles Caldera, Chaco Canyon Ackislander? I'd heard of Chaco but not the other two. Now I've been to all three. I didn't plan to go to any one of them.

Now if someone plans to go to the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley and Arches National Monument, do you think their week's experience wil be any better than mine was?

Trust me, I've been to GC, Monument valley and Arches. They aren't better or worse, just different. No matter how many places you go to there are always others just as good that you didn't get to. So why care which you do go to?

The ones you find by chance rather than off a 'top ten attractions' list are in my experience often far more rewarding anyway.
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Old Apr 15th, 2014, 03:17 PM
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After all these comments I'm going back to my previous post----with only 7 days, I wouldn't want to waste time.. I'd make reservations.
Other than that I have no strong opinions on the subject!

Good luck and have a great adventure in Ireland.
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