Dress standards in Paris............
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The Moulin Rouge does not cost "a fortune". And I've seen lots of lousy theater or ballet or opera that cost that much, if you want a direct comparison. This is a special event for entertainment when you are traveling. Lots of folks on here spend huge amounts of money on vacation just for a dinner which is immediately gone as soon as you eat it. There have been posts by people spending 150 euro on a Vespa tour on here. FOdors is full of folks laying out 300 euro or more a night for some apt rental. Personally, I'd rather spend the money at the Moulin Rouge than going to some expensive restaurant for a single meal. It costs about 90 euro if you don't eat the dinner (the Moulin Rouge), 102 euro with drinks. That is not a fortune by the standards of what a lot of people on Fodors are spending on travel from the posts I read on here.
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>Be cautious about such broad brush statements. Paris as a world class city has some quite elegant places where jackets and even ties are de rigueur<
Well, DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Yea, I would never have known that Paris was a world-class city considering my grandparents kept an apartment on the Avenue Kleber for over 30 years. Or that one of my closest friends works at French Vogue and lives in Neuilly.
Most people who would dine at Taillevent (hey, and guess what? I have dined there) know how to dress. They wouldn't come to a travel forum and ask complete strangers how to dress, would they? Didn't mommy teach them how to dress?
I guess I am just being naive when I expect adults to know how to dress themselves.
I live in a different world than where you come from.
Pippy, formerly know as Thin
Well, DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Yea, I would never have known that Paris was a world-class city considering my grandparents kept an apartment on the Avenue Kleber for over 30 years. Or that one of my closest friends works at French Vogue and lives in Neuilly.
Most people who would dine at Taillevent (hey, and guess what? I have dined there) know how to dress. They wouldn't come to a travel forum and ask complete strangers how to dress, would they? Didn't mommy teach them how to dress?
I guess I am just being naive when I expect adults to know how to dress themselves.
I live in a different world than where you come from.
Pippy, formerly know as Thin
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Sadly there are a lot of tourists - not referring to anyone specific here - who have no proble traveling all over the world and going into all sorts of restauarants and arts venues dressed as if they had just been cleaning out the garage.
Never mind those men that think having to wear long pants and shoes (versus cut-off jeans and dirty sneakers) - never mind a jacket - is some form of torture.
And it's not just europe. A couple of years ago I encountered a family - parents and 2 tween/teen kids coming out of Grand Central Station. They were totally lost - going to see a B'way show and shomehow got to the east side rather than the west. And it had started to rain - for which they were not prepaed. Apparently they had found someplace selling large black trash bags and they were each wearing one - over their heads - with faces and arms sticking out - and not long enough to cover their shorts or hide their flip flops - and filthy feet and legs. They asked me for directions to the theater. I suggested they go back to their hotel and change into clean, dry clothes and get umbrellas (after pointing out they were on the wrong side of town and needed to catch the shuttle to W 42nd). They said the the subway was too confusing and set out to walk - in heavy rain - from 42nd and Lex to 48th and past B'way. And presumably attend the theater in their trash bags and sopping wet clothes/filthy feet/legs.
Never mind those men that think having to wear long pants and shoes (versus cut-off jeans and dirty sneakers) - never mind a jacket - is some form of torture.
And it's not just europe. A couple of years ago I encountered a family - parents and 2 tween/teen kids coming out of Grand Central Station. They were totally lost - going to see a B'way show and shomehow got to the east side rather than the west. And it had started to rain - for which they were not prepaed. Apparently they had found someplace selling large black trash bags and they were each wearing one - over their heads - with faces and arms sticking out - and not long enough to cover their shorts or hide their flip flops - and filthy feet and legs. They asked me for directions to the theater. I suggested they go back to their hotel and change into clean, dry clothes and get umbrellas (after pointing out they were on the wrong side of town and needed to catch the shuttle to W 42nd). They said the the subway was too confusing and set out to walk - in heavy rain - from 42nd and Lex to 48th and past B'way. And presumably attend the theater in their trash bags and sopping wet clothes/filthy feet/legs.
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LOL!!!!! That is just so funny!
I will never forget the cold, wet April day when I was going to lunch with co-workers. We were walking near Rittenhouse Sq. in Philadelphia, clutching our coats because there was a terrible icy wind blowing, when we encountered a family of four from South Carolina.
I was wearing a long cashmere coat and these fools were wearing shorts, flip-flops, and t-shirts. One of the teen boys had on a tank top!!!!! WTF!!!
The father (mother, father, two teen sons) asked us where the Liberty Bell was.
We told them that they were many, many blocks from the Liberty Bell and then I hailed a cab and told the driver to take the family to the Liberty Bell.
They didn't want to get in because they thought taxis in Philly were too pricey!!!!!! They wanted to walk!!
I told them that they would incur a huge medical bill if they wound up in hospital with pneumonia.
One of my co-workers outright asked them, "Aren't you freezing?" They said "yes," but this is how they dress in South Carolina, so this is how they dress everywhere they go.
Fools.
Pippy aka Thin
I will never forget the cold, wet April day when I was going to lunch with co-workers. We were walking near Rittenhouse Sq. in Philadelphia, clutching our coats because there was a terrible icy wind blowing, when we encountered a family of four from South Carolina.
I was wearing a long cashmere coat and these fools were wearing shorts, flip-flops, and t-shirts. One of the teen boys had on a tank top!!!!! WTF!!!
The father (mother, father, two teen sons) asked us where the Liberty Bell was.
We told them that they were many, many blocks from the Liberty Bell and then I hailed a cab and told the driver to take the family to the Liberty Bell.
They didn't want to get in because they thought taxis in Philly were too pricey!!!!!! They wanted to walk!!
I told them that they would incur a huge medical bill if they wound up in hospital with pneumonia.
One of my co-workers outright asked them, "Aren't you freezing?" They said "yes," but this is how they dress in South Carolina, so this is how they dress everywhere they go.
Fools.
Pippy aka Thin
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Wow, nytraveler...hilarious! I am from Atlanta and yes it is hot here but I know not to wear shorts and flip flops on a cold rainy day! Who are these people? Does no one check the weather at their destination? (And I wouldn't wear flip flops out and about anyway...great around the house or beach but not my show choice otherwise).
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Moulin Rouge is fun, I have been twice and really enjoyed it. I wouldn't go again though, but do go. I think it's nice people take the time to dress up a little, especially dinners, shows, even just to meet a friend for a drink and shop.
Being a tourist doesn't mean being sloven, just casual stuff but a little elegant. You will be refused at the Jules Verne wearing jeans a big white sneakers or shorts! I have seen people turned away.
Being a tourist doesn't mean being sloven, just casual stuff but a little elegant. You will be refused at the Jules Verne wearing jeans a big white sneakers or shorts! I have seen people turned away.
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I remember having to put away my sons' summer clothes when the weather got cold in order to avoid the inevitable argument when they tried to wear them in the winter. At least they had the excuse of youth and this was in California. You can't force people to have common sense.
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My husband I just returned from our 4th trip to Paris.
We were wearing casual shorts and jeans...(still in summer clothing mode) some locals were in this mode and some were in fall mode...boots, jeans, scarves etc
I recommend wearing what you are comfortable wearing...Have a great time and don't stress over your wardrobe. :}
We were wearing casual shorts and jeans...(still in summer clothing mode) some locals were in this mode and some were in fall mode...boots, jeans, scarves etc
I recommend wearing what you are comfortable wearing...Have a great time and don't stress over your wardrobe. :}