A Male Dominated Society?

Sep 9th, 2004, 09:48 AM
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OK, I'll confess... I have been a seducer...

AND some of my favorite memories are of being a seducee...

THANK THE LORD!

I guess I still got it, or at least some of it... a feller in Gay Paree tried to seduce me with an offer of a coke... I demurred coyly...
then the offer of "With ICE!"

I resisted, and that is a shame.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 09:52 AM
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Um actually, as we know, sometimes no is not well understood as meaning NO! by some men, even in the US, no?.
joiedeamour, 2 good phrases, in case you don't wanna spring for a small phrase book are :
"Lascia mi da sola!" (Leave me alone!!) (pron: LASH-AH-MEE-DA-SOLAH) and "Vai via!" (Go away!!), preceded by the word no, will probably work better than just "No".

LOL, re calling the police, actually, one fellow who tried to come on to me in Rome WAS a policeman! pretty funny....

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Sep 9th, 2004, 09:55 AM
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It sounds like your friends, joie, have interesting vacations. I am still not sure what is bothering you. If you want to seduce or be the seducee (great!SuszieC) you can certainly pick and choose your "victim". If you don't want to, just ignore them or yell "no".

Better yet, don't put yourself in a situation where someone has the opportunity to dominate you. Maybe this is easier said than done, but tell us where you are from and that might help a little.

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Sep 9th, 2004, 09:56 AM
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Did you make him wear his police uniform later that night? Or were the handcuffs enough?
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Sep 9th, 2004, 10:00 AM
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Yes, but have you seen the policemen in Rome? Very nice looking males, dominating or not!
I've been to Italy with girlfriends (Milan in this case) and thought the male attention not at all pushy, just flattering.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 10:02 AM
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Two women seduced in five countries? Didn't their Mama tell them... don't talk to strangers?

Seriously... if your two girlfriends really had this experience (and more than once!) they are naive. Their experience does not illustrate "male dominated society" but instead extremely poor judgement on their parts on numerous occasions.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 10:06 AM
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The advice about not putting myself in the situation didn't work for one of my friends, she was seduced by the married day tour guide...in the bus!!

OK, I should seduce if I want to but only with a policeman and if I get seduced and I yell no a policeman will come and seduce me too? Just kidding.
It all sounds very complicated some of you want the attention and some of you don't. Two out of two friends I know who have been to Europe have been seduced and I am from a small town yes.

I notice the males here treat this like it is all a joke in their weary way of trying passive agressive dominance. What does skirts up and nose down mean anyway!

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Sep 9th, 2004, 10:14 AM
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When you say seduced, do you mean your friends willingly agreed, or are you talking about something more sinister like drugging or date rape? If it's just the standard meaning of the word "seduced", you are clearly not in danger because you can turn down the proposition.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 10:14 AM
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No wonder you are having severe anxiety problems - you have the terms all mixed up. Its: Skirts down and nose up, not the other way around.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 10:23 AM
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Degas, you have me laughing today and you have almost seduced me too.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Nothing useful to contribute... but Pleeease no more funny responses..am trying to eat my lunch somewhat decorously.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 10:45 AM
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joiedeamour

Sorry - thought yuo had serious concrns about unwanted attention on the street.


If the only issue is should you allow yoursefl to be seduced or not (really don;t undrstand how this can happen involuntarily) - don't understand why that query is any different in europe than in the US.

And what exactly does "male domiantion" have to do with seduction.

As for your friend who was seduced in several different countries - I hope she found it profitable - I mean, at that point its semi-professional.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 11:08 AM
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Joiedeamour:

Girl....you had me duped until you posted "skirts down, noses up...or skirts up, noses down"..Hrumph, you ain't even innocent nor the least bit near being dominated!

Birds of a feather flock together...you just like your girlfriends...

I ain't mad at ya though...fooled me good...

Italy/Scily men should be very afraid of you! Work it girl!!!!!

Is your moniker your "stage" name?
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Sep 9th, 2004, 11:11 AM
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I'm not sure exactly how you are using the word "seduction". Mutually concentual sex and rape are distinctly different things.

The married bus driver made "a pass" at her, or he forced himself on her sexually? Again two very different situations.

If you want to go to Europe and have sex with foreign men, go for it. If you don't want to, it is easily avoided. The only effect it might have on you unwillingly is men staring or making small comments on the street.

The results will come (as did for your friends) from your own behaviors, not the fact you are traveling in Italy.

Starting with the male dominated society phrase, and ending with your use of the word seduction... personally I'm finding these ideas pretty sheltered and a bit old fashioned.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 11:29 AM
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I really did read the message wrong in my haste I couldn't understand why he wrote that it's very funny and wise.

My stage name? The only stage out here is at the horse auction and no comments on that please.

My friends are innocent and very pretty by the way so don't rag on them please. We are not well traveled and figure we should break away from Dairy Queen Society.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 11:31 AM
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Could you explain what this means please?

"I notice the males here treat this like it is all a joke in their weary way of trying passive agressive dominance."
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Sep 9th, 2004, 11:32 AM
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>...What does skirts up and nose down mean anyway! <

Ah, that explains your friends being seduced multiple times in many countries.
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Sep 9th, 2004, 11:41 AM
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No degas, I turned him down, cause he was just a regular police officer, and I was holding out for one of those carabinieris with the black books, the capes and the movie star looks that always make me weak in the knees.
Someday my prince will come....!
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Sep 9th, 2004, 11:41 AM
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WAIT! I mean black boots, not books, although one of those might come in handy too...
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Sep 9th, 2004, 11:43 AM
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Huh? Horse auctions and dairy queen???

"Very pretty, innocent and not well travelled"...is that like a line in a personal ad?

Yawn.......

Good Luck

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