17 days in Europe , short time to plan
#21
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hi guys I'm back here . So after a lot of thinking and research I have decided to stay in Iberian peninsula and not go too far.
Since I have already seen bcn, mad and seville. I wont be staying there for long only using these cities as transit.
Please advice which of these cities are absolute must ( for architecture , sight seeing , food etc) and which ones are not so important so I can change and add more days in more important places. I know this plan will be rushed but I thought I will ask on this forum first before finalizing . And also i have 18 days there not 17
Day1 BCN
Day2 Valencia
Day3 Valencia
Day4 Granada
Day5 Granada
Day6 Malaga
Day7 Malaga
Day8 Cordoba
Day9 Cordoba
Day10 Badajoz
Day11 Lisbon
Day12 Lisbon
Day13 Porto
Day14 Porto
Day15 MAD(already been - transit- Friday night)
Day16 Bilbao
Day17 Bilbao-day trip outside the city
Day18 Bilbao
thanks.
Since I have already seen bcn, mad and seville. I wont be staying there for long only using these cities as transit.
Please advice which of these cities are absolute must ( for architecture , sight seeing , food etc) and which ones are not so important so I can change and add more days in more important places. I know this plan will be rushed but I thought I will ask on this forum first before finalizing . And also i have 18 days there not 17

Day1 BCN
Day2 Valencia
Day3 Valencia
Day4 Granada
Day5 Granada
Day6 Malaga
Day7 Malaga
Day8 Cordoba
Day9 Cordoba
Day10 Badajoz
Day11 Lisbon
Day12 Lisbon
Day13 Porto
Day14 Porto
Day15 MAD(already been - transit- Friday night)
Day16 Bilbao
Day17 Bilbao-day trip outside the city
Day18 Bilbao
thanks.
#26
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 473
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Define a 'must' and define 'important'. Those two words are meaningless unless you define what they mean to YOU.
Your plan to me sucks. Nowhere will you be spending more than 1.5 days actually in the place.
Where in your list are you counting time lost to moving between places? How much of your total time will you lose to moving, have you figured it out?
By my count, you have 10 travel days out of 18. That is 10 days in which you do not spend a full day in a place. You will be moving on those days and so will lost a least a significant amount of the day doing so.
What is your objective with this list? To simply tick the names off the list? In that case, why not just move every day and you can tick off more names.
I understand most people want to try and 'get the most' out of their time but I don't understand why anyone would think more places means you get more out of your time. Quantity is not quality. You get more out of a day by being in a place, not by moving from place to place.
The way to get the maximum out of your time is actually to spend it all in one place and losing only your arrival and departure days to travel. Or you can try to find some kind of balance that lets you visit a few more places if you decide you are willing to lose a certain percentage of your time to moving. But what is a reasonable percentage? In the case of your list, you are going to lose somewhere between 30 and 55% of your time to moving. Is that reasonable to you?
Your plan to me sucks. Nowhere will you be spending more than 1.5 days actually in the place.
Where in your list are you counting time lost to moving between places? How much of your total time will you lose to moving, have you figured it out?
By my count, you have 10 travel days out of 18. That is 10 days in which you do not spend a full day in a place. You will be moving on those days and so will lost a least a significant amount of the day doing so.
What is your objective with this list? To simply tick the names off the list? In that case, why not just move every day and you can tick off more names.
I understand most people want to try and 'get the most' out of their time but I don't understand why anyone would think more places means you get more out of your time. Quantity is not quality. You get more out of a day by being in a place, not by moving from place to place.
The way to get the maximum out of your time is actually to spend it all in one place and losing only your arrival and departure days to travel. Or you can try to find some kind of balance that lets you visit a few more places if you decide you are willing to lose a certain percentage of your time to moving. But what is a reasonable percentage? In the case of your list, you are going to lose somewhere between 30 and 55% of your time to moving. Is that reasonable to you?




