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Old Apr 19th, 2016, 04:57 AM
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10 days germany and France

so i've never planned a trip in europe so i want to make it as perfect as possible. My boyfriends sister lives in Dusseldorf and so i want to go there but first i would love to spend 4 days in France and then go to Germany. i want to see Amsterdam and also Brussels.

i have access to a car so i can drive, train

any help would be awesome !!
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Old Apr 19th, 2016, 05:38 AM
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Have you booked your flights? If not, you should fly into one city and out of another. For example, fly into Paris for your first 4 nights, then visit Dusseldorf for 3 nights, then visit Amsterdam for 3 nights. Fly home from Amsterdam. If you really want to visit Brussels, then visit as a day-trip from Amsterdam.

Or you could reverse the order: fly into Amsterdam, visit Dusseldorf, then fly home from Paris.
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4 countries plus visiting relatives in 10 days is doable, but tough. You did not write whether arrival and departure day are included in this 10-day-period. If yes, your trip becomes even tougher.

You do not need an open-jaw (or "multi-city") flight (which is usually more expensive). Since your destinations have good train connections, I recommend a loop by train plus daytrips by car from Düsseldorf. This could be a loop:

- Düsseldorf to Amsterdam (2:13 by train).
- Amsterdam to Brussels (1:50).
- Brussels to Paris (1:22).
- Paris to Düsseldorf (3:51).

Of course, you can do the loop in the other direction. Since it is a loop, the starting/ending point does not matter. You can fly into

- Düsseldorf
- Amsterdam
- Paris
- Brussels
- Cologne

Prefer a direct flight into one of these cities.

No, let's go into some details:

From Düsseldorf, you can do daytrips:

- By car to Aachen (cathedral from 800 A.D.) and to Monschau (one of the most picturesque historical town in Germany). You can even include Maastricht in the Netherlands into this daytrip.

- By train (23 min.) to Cologne with one of the largest and finest gothic cathedrals at all, with the fantastic Romano-Germanic Museum, world-class art museums (you have them also in Düsseldorf) and more.

- By car to nearby Neanderthal where you find a stunning state-of-the-art museum of the Neanderthal Man and the historic of mankind in a lovely valley (25 min.).

Also, you will enjoy Düsseldorf, which is an attractive city (regardless what a few morons here on this forum will tell you).

A word about Brussels: Given your limited timeframe, I would recommend to stop in Brussels just for a few hours on the way from Amsterdam to Paris. Just walk over the grand market square and through old town, maybe have lunch.

Paris deserves as much time as possible.
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I think you're trying to do too much. Assume you will return and will be able to visit some of these places at a later date.
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Info on trains - www.seat61.com (great info on discounted tickets if you want to book in stone often weeks in advance to get them); www.budgeteuropetravel.com and www.ricksteves.com.

Cars are a liability in cities where traffic can be intense and parking expensive and problematic and urban transports are so so fine- use a car for jaunts like traveller1959 suggests.

No taking enough trains for any railpass to be viable IMO.
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Old Apr 25th, 2016, 03:58 AM
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thank you so much, you're right i may be trying to do too much, so i'm taking Brussels off my list. thank you guys!
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Less can be more!
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You say 10 days, but how many nights do you have on the ground in Europe. Remember that it takes four nights somewhere in order to have 3 days. If you actually have 10 full days (11 nights) 3 locations is do-able, though busy. You might well find that choosing two destinations will yield a more satisfying trip.
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