Are United "Business" and Air Canada "Executive First" the same?
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Are United "Business" and Air Canada "Executive First" the same?
I’m using United FF miles to go “Business” class from Rome to Toronto on Air Canada. The United reservation uses the term “Business.” However, from the AC website, they don’t have “Business” class. They have “Executive First”, “Executive” (but that’s within North America only) and then “Economy”.
I’m concluding that the UA “Business” = AC “Executive First”, but I’m not sure, as it’s more like United’s First, not Business. I called AC and they were vague. Anyone ever use UA miles on Air Canada and run into this?
Many thanks...
I’m concluding that the UA “Business” = AC “Executive First”, but I’m not sure, as it’s more like United’s First, not Business. I called AC and they were vague. Anyone ever use UA miles on Air Canada and run into this?
Many thanks...
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Executive First is just a brand name. It is considered a business class cabin. By all accounts the new seats that AC has are very nice, and I would think it should be a great flight.
Other silly names like this would be BA's Club World, Continental's BusinessFirst, Delta's BusinessElite, Northwest's World Business Class, and USAir's Envoy Class. Why they can't just call them First and Business is beyond me.
Other silly names like this would be BA's Club World, Continental's BusinessFirst, Delta's BusinessElite, Northwest's World Business Class, and USAir's Envoy Class. Why they can't just call them First and Business is beyond me.
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travelgourmet -
part of the reason the various airlines came up with these names is because the product is neither business nor first, but something in between. Also, a very important reason is that this product is coded as a business class fare, which is often allowed under corporate travel policies that prohibit first class on the company dime.
part of the reason the various airlines came up with these names is because the product is neither business nor first, but something in between. Also, a very important reason is that this product is coded as a business class fare, which is often allowed under corporate travel policies that prohibit first class on the company dime.
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<i><b>...part of the reason the various airlines came up with these names is because the product is neither business nor first, but something in between.</b></i>
Seamus, that is exactly what Continental, Delta, Northwest, and USAirways want you to believe. In fact, however, each one of those products are inferior to most airlines' business class: worse seats, worse lounges, worse in-flight meals, and worse service in the air and on the ground.
Seamus, that is exactly what Continental, Delta, Northwest, and USAirways want you to believe. In fact, however, each one of those products are inferior to most airlines' business class: worse seats, worse lounges, worse in-flight meals, and worse service in the air and on the ground.
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"By all accounts the new seats that AC has are very nice ..."
AC's new "Executive First" (yes, business class) seats are very nice indeed. I've had the pleasure on three trans-Atlantic legs. You can take a tour of the new seats here:
www.aircanada.com/en/news/071128.html?src=hp_wn
Just a word of caution for the OP: AC uses a 767-300 on their Rome to Toronto flights. About half of those aircraft are updated with the new interiors, according to AC's website. If you get one, you'll be happy. If not ... be prepared for a very tired-looking interior.
You didn't mention when your flight is. If soon, I suspect you're more likely to see an old interior on that route. However, as time goes by, all of the 767-300s will be made over.
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AC's new "Executive First" (yes, business class) seats are very nice indeed. I've had the pleasure on three trans-Atlantic legs. You can take a tour of the new seats here:
www.aircanada.com/en/news/071128.html?src=hp_wn
Just a word of caution for the OP: AC uses a 767-300 on their Rome to Toronto flights. About half of those aircraft are updated with the new interiors, according to AC's website. If you get one, you'll be happy. If not ... be prepared for a very tired-looking interior.
You didn't mention when your flight is. If soon, I suspect you're more likely to see an old interior on that route. However, as time goes by, all of the 767-300s will be made over.
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"part of the reason the various airlines came up with these names is because the product is neither business nor first, but something in between."
Having flown genuine international first class, I don't think any of the airlines I mentioned even approximate first class. I feel it is nothing more than marketing. Of course, I also don't think first class is worth paying for, but it doesn't mean it isn't different.
Having flown genuine international first class, I don't think any of the airlines I mentioned even approximate first class. I feel it is nothing more than marketing. Of course, I also don't think first class is worth paying for, but it doesn't mean it isn't different.
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AnselmAdorne, I'll be departing Rome on April 16, so maybe I won't get the new interior. No doubt, it's the new interior on their website.
As always, thanks everyone for the feedback.
As always, thanks everyone for the feedback.
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