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Old Jul 13th, 2007, 11:28 AM
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Toorhpaste in China?

Would you use the toothpaste in the hotels in China? I was given toothpaste/brush on an Air China flight too.

Actually I'm confused on this subject, could some countries be making toothpaste with ingredients from China and how can you tell?
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Old Jul 13th, 2007, 11:53 AM
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I always use my own. Not because of danger, but I hate their taste. And to me, a toothbrush is a very personal item. Also use my own.

[It's kind of interesting that one may be staying at the crappiest dumpy hotel in China with bugs and everything, but they'll have toothbrush/paste and slippers. These are things that Americans carry when traveling, but not Chinese.]

Anyways, back to the toothpaste issue. You're talking about the diethylene glycol. It's not a matter of where the ingredients come from. DEG can kill you wherever they're made. It's that it shouldn't be in toothpaste, period.
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Old Jul 13th, 2007, 04:34 PM
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Hi Shanghainese,

Unfortunately it's not just the toothpaste supplied IN China, but 'pirated' big brands such as Colgate that contain the deadly diethylene glycol - I read about a warning in Canada last week, where the pirated Colgate was further disguised by being "Made in South Africa". Must admit I checked my stock in the bathroom, and was rather suprised it was "Made in Thailand" - am doing a bit more checking on this.

Yesterday, the contaminated Chinese toothpaste was found in several stores in Boston, more details in the Boston Globe's article at http://www.boston.com/news/globe/cit...inated_to.html

Jackie
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Old Jul 14th, 2007, 09:41 AM
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Thanks, rkkwan and Jackie!
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Old Jul 17th, 2007, 04:14 PM
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I can't add to the larger issue of this thread, but I found it very interesting that the topic was covered by CCTV International Channel (the only English-language CCTV channel, and a prime place for propaganda as would be expected).

They were quick to say that the government is putting in rules to address the situation. Then they had a piece on how DEG is not in that many brands of toothpaste and that anyway, the toxin really isn't that bad for you. They ended the coverage by interviewing a Frenchman on the street, who claimed he will always use the local toothpaste: he's been living in China for 4 years and has never had a problem, lack of memory or anything (I guess addressing possible symptoms of toxin poisoning?).

It was definitely a bizarre reporting piece, at least from my Western perspective!
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Old Jul 18th, 2007, 09:35 AM
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I love CCTV, but only as a humorous diversion rather than as a primary news source.

I lived in China for 6 years, using Chinese toothpaste for at least 4 of them. In all that time, I can't recall having any symptoms related to memory loss
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Old Jul 18th, 2007, 07:50 PM
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Actually, the CCTV news can be useful. If it mentions something, then it must be <b>really</b> bad. Just to have a toothpaste story means hundreds if not thousands have been made sick.

You just have to &quot;interpret&quot; the story correctly.
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Yes, I agree with you both, baaj and rkkwan - CCTV is both a humorous diversion and an interesting read into the &quot;mind&quot; of the government.

The week I arrived was the 10-year anniversary of the HK handover, and my sensitive lefty sensibilities couldn't handle all the talk of the &quot;return to the motherland&quot; - so I watched the ceremonies on a Chinese language channel instead, so that I wouldn't have to know what they were saying! (My hotel only provides CCTV, no cable channels.)

Now that I've become a bit more adjusted, I enjoy watching the channel to hear that perspective.

Last night there was a round table discussion on the DPRK (aka North Korea). Unfortunately I was too sleepy to listen closely!
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A new idea for good gifts for Chinese, genuine American toothpaste! I told one Chinese friend I am bringing toothpaste. He said to not do that, thinking perhaps it was a put-down of China. I said, &quot;No, I think too much of your family for you to use toxic chemicals.&quot; He reconsidered, and approved the gift.
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