Hi again

Thanks for the directions to 2nd st Deli.

I am now puzzled by something else - how can something be kosher-style and not kosher?? I thought "Kosher" meant making the products under the direction of a rabbi and also inspected accordingly. You know not mixing the meat and dairy and adhering to "strict" kosher practices. Don't everyone laugh at once folks, remember I'm this little Irish gal who used to have some good Jewish friends. I had never heard of "kosher style". I guess I need to be enlightened.

Nikki,

You have a pretty good understanding.

"Kosher style" is a meaningless term used for marketing.

Primarily, I think, it's used to sell to people that don't know or care and like to think that they are eating authentic food.

Even if a deli buys prepackaged Kosher corned beef, as soon at it touches their non kosher slicer, it no longer is considered kossher.

Oh Boy - thanks Dick I had forgotten that. and it's so right!! Oy Vey

Makes me want to have some @nd St Deli, Carnegie's or even some of the old extinct Saul's (scranton PA) good Jewish food.

Katz is "kosher style", 2nd Avenue deli is "kosher". Both serve meat that goes through processing that makes the meat "kosher" So why is Katz "kosher style" and 2nd AVe Deli "kosher? Katz serves dairy products, 2nd Ave deli does not. You can't mix dairy and meat products. Then there is "glatt kosher. Stricter rules for processing meat and glatt kosher restaurants close on Friday nite and SAturday until sundown

...but where is the best kielbasa?

Yes, but kosher meat can become non-kosher depending on how it is handled.

Technically, corned beef that is kosher and then is placed on a non kosher plate is no longer kosher.

I don't know why Micheals doesn't sound Kosher to me. No reason in particular and sorry if I offended anyone. Both Dick and S are correct. Kosher Style is a misnomer and Katz is not a Kosher Deli. The best one, hands down, is Second Avenue Deli.

It doesn't mean that non kosher corned beef can't tast good.

Ya think?

Bypass Zaftigs...once you've had CB in NY you just can't compare... the size of the sandwich is tiny and just not as good. Had never heard of Michael's..but will try it.. Have found Maxi's in Canton, MA..absolutley delicious... but my mouth waters for NYC cornebeef,.. The last best one we had was in Wolf's sadly out of business.

Sorry to rain on all of your parades, but most religious Jews would not consider the Second Avenue Deli to be kosher as its supervision is not mainstream and it stays open on Shabbat. I love the place, but if you look around you won't see anyone wearing a yarmulke. They just won't go there.

I don't pretend to be a "kosher maven"
but those restaurants that remain open on
Friday night/Saturday do utilize supervision that is "mainstream". THose that close on the aforementioned days employ supervisiom that can hardly be called "mainstream" (Glatt kosher).

X, you certainly are no kosher maven. Glatt has nothing to do with whether the restaurant stays open on Shabbat. Most mainstream certification requires that the restaurant closes on Shabbat for two reasons mainly. First, there obviously can be no supervision on Shabbat by the certifying authorities as they would not work that day, and second, if the place is owned by Jews who are earning money and working on the sabbath they can hardly be expected to care sufficiently about the laws of kashrut.

Wolfies in Miami

I thought Wolfies in South Beach closed?

X,

Michael is right.

Who gave you that info that a deli could be kosher and still be open on Friday Night and Satruday?

If it came directly from a "kosher" deli that is open on Saturdays and claims to be supervised, it could be condered fraud and/or deception.

Calling an establishment Kosher Style is just a euphemism for Jewish food style. Outside NYC another euphemism is New York Style. Actual kosher delis (and other establishments) would be closed on Shabbat for all the above mentioned reasons (and their main clientel would not patronize on Shabbat either). Anyone can buy/eat a kosher food item, but it's no longer kosher when served on non-kosher dishes. You don't have to be Jewish to love Levy's rye bread (anyone remember this ad campaign?). Hebrew National sells lots of kosher dogs to non observant people and they're delicious. As for the CB in Montreal, Swartz's makes/sells smoked beef, not corned beef, and it's fabulous! I do remember Jack and Marion's in Brookline. They don't make em like that anymore...But the B&D Deli on Beacon St. in Brookline (just west of Washington St) is excellent. Back when my husband owned the Langley Deli in Newton Centre I thought his CB was the best, but who am I to judge?

Ann,

I grew up near the Circle and was very familiar with your deli. The corned beef at Langley Deli was VERY good (non-related opinion.

Jack & Marianne's was great at their peak. In those days, regulars bypassed the line and were seated in the back(Tycoon Lounge, if I remember correctly).

Dick, thanks for the compliment! My husband owned the Langley from 1982-87, but didn't change much from when Bernie and Ruby owned it. He bought his CB from Pearl (famous for the hot dogs) which was not kosher, but the best taste/quality. I was never enough of a regular at J&M's to know about the no-wait status (but I remember when you could go up the back stairs at Durgin Park from the bar and avoid the wait). Didn't know too much about deli til I got married. Now I may know too much.