Sounds like there's some intrastate issue here. no, I suppose you dont care if we care. dont live on LI if you dislike it. but it snows a heck of a lot where you are, why not move south a little, get more favorable weather. in the meantime, nobody much cares how you guys argue about areas. you must admit its not something we need tyo even know about. But sorry dodnt mean to minimize it since its so crucial to you.

MY NAME IS TOMMY HILFIGER, I AM FROM THE REAL UPSTATE NEW YORK. ELMIRA, NY. About 39 miles south of Rochester. Now this is upstate. Screw the rest of the insecure people who refer to us as central State. I love New York and Upstate New York.

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tommy my neice loves your togs especially all the red white and blue stuff -kinda mondrian i suppose and youre mid ny not up.

dear upstate,
I always thought that anything north of Manhattan was upstate.
Maybe you shouldn't take this so personally..it is/or was until now, a friendly thread .

I also stayed in the Beekman arms in aug 2000 and I think I may have stayed in the same room as you. I was a newlywed at the time and the issue of the soundproofing was very annoying. you heard everything that went by, the bed was very uncomfortable and i am never going back. the next nite we had a reservation on the hideaway suites in rhinebeck which was a very romantic b&b.

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