Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > United States
Reload this Page >

UK finding work in NY

Search

UK finding work in NY

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 9th, 2005, 01:09 PM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
UK finding work in NY

My friend is looking to move to NY and find work as a barman/waiter in Manhattan. what are all the 'ins & outs' of finding work, tax,accommodation,what is 'street' news
Average costs/wages?,tips etc.Any help would be grateful. TA
georgec is offline  
Old Jun 9th, 2005, 01:20 PM
  #2  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,242
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
First, he is going to need work visa
Pat2003 is offline  
Old Jun 9th, 2005, 01:25 PM
  #3  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Tanx does he apply in UK or NY and where/how etc? TA
georgec is offline  
Old Jun 9th, 2005, 02:15 PM
  #4  
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 57,890
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Getting a work visa is extremely difficult - you need to demonstrate that you have skills that cannot be filled by citizen job seekers. To get one as a waiter/barman is close to impossible.

The only real choice is to come on a vacation visa and stay ilegally (subject to deportation). Some restaurants/bars may hire illegals - often as dishwashers - but it is much easier to get a job "off the books" either in day construction or as an au pair (thats what UK/Irish illegals in NY usually do).

Taxes are not paid by employers - nor benefits provided. You get cash under the table - minimal. In the US bartenderes and wait staff work for practically nothing (less than minimum wage - are often partly "paid" via free meals - and basically have to live off tips. So your friend better be very charming.

A friend of mine employed a series of Scots or Irish au pairs when her kids were small - and essentially you get room, board and a modest allowance. And deportation can always be a problem - the INS is not actively out looking for you - but you're always subject to snitches - one was deported when she was turned in by a boyfirend with whom she had a dispute.

A lot of kids do this for a summer or a year - it's very difficult to do for longer than this unless the government has one of those amnesties for illegals and you come in, confess and ask for legal immigant status.

The lsaat option is to come in on a studen visa. I think this specifically precludes working - and naturally - you have to be admitted to a university - that will provide application info.
nytraveler is offline  
Old Jun 9th, 2005, 02:18 PM
  #5  
SAB
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,614
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How to get a US work permit may require legal advice. Best bet is to check with US Immigration website: Here's a place to start.

http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/ead.htm
SAB is offline  
Old Jun 9th, 2005, 02:44 PM
  #6  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,566
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Visas are handled by the State Depertment, not USCIS. Here's their website: http://www.unitedstatesvisas.gov/

I highly recommend that your friend NOT work in the US without USCIS authorization. If your friend did this, and later decided to apply for permanent residency, their unlawful employment could cause problems. Also, they can be reported to the USCIS and deported for violating their visitor visa status. Also, you cannot work on a student visa. If caught, you will be kicked out of the university.

ChristieP is offline  
Old Jun 9th, 2005, 02:58 PM
  #7  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,395
Received 79 Likes on 8 Posts
Ask your friend how easy it is for a non EU citizen to get work in the UK. If he knows the answer, tell him he knows the answer here too.
Gardyloo is offline  
Old Jun 10th, 2005, 06:51 AM
  #8  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,715
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
http://www.workpermit.com/us/employee.htm

It's not uncommon to find waiters/waitresses and bartenders who are not working legally, but I don't think that's a good idea. I don't know the ins and outs of that and housing here is very expensive.

There is an H2-B visa program for temporary work--usually those who have this visa do seasonal work in resorts--ski resorts in the winter or beach resorts in the summer. You would need to find an employer to sponsor you though.
mclaurie is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Yosa
Travel Tips & Trip Ideas
4
Oct 26th, 2017 08:06 AM
David49
Europe
24
Dec 10th, 2012 09:57 AM
regulator
Europe
15
Jun 22nd, 2008 06:59 PM
Maria_H
Europe
13
Jun 25th, 2007 09:46 AM
Erin464
Europe
15
May 3rd, 2007 12:37 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -