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Nov 2nd, 2007, 07:48 AM
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Hey Ralphie,
Did Bill also go and turn off the heat before the game in the Redskins lockerroom? Then crank it all the way up at halftime? Then hook up their water fountains to the sewage system? Then turn off all the hot water?
Or did Red come back from the grave to do all that, just so the Pats could win by such a large margin.
Did Bill also go and turn off the heat before the game in the Redskins lockerroom? Then crank it all the way up at halftime? Then hook up their water fountains to the sewage system? Then turn off all the hot water?
Or did Red come back from the grave to do all that, just so the Pats could win by such a large margin.
Nov 3rd, 2007, 01:34 PM
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1. The camera guy had the tapes confiscated in the first 8 minutes of the game, not at half time.
Hey, you're right...I was referring to a *separate* cheating incident by the Cheatriots. (it's hard to keep track--there are so many, you know). They got penalized this year specifically for cheating during the Jets' game. But last year when they played the Packers the very same cameraman got caught doing the very same thing. In the cheating incident against the Packers, the cameraman did get caught at halftime. The Packers, being a team with superior sportsmanship, didn't make a stink about it at the time. They only got caught because Mangini, an estranged protege of Bill Bellicheat, knew it was coming (as he probably participated in the same cheating while he was with the Patriots). Sorry about the mixup on my part, but the fact that I confused multiple incidents of the Pats cheating merely illustrates the fact that, well, there are multiple incidents of the Pats cheating.
"2. Lots of teams tape - Belachiks infraction was about were he taped from. The same taping taking place by a staff member in the stands would not have been an infraction. "
Right, so why didn't the Cheatriots do their taping from a *licit* vantage point instead? Because that wouldn't give them the same viewing angle as the illicit tactic employed by the Pats, that's why. The specificity in the NFL rules exists for a reason. The Cheatriots chose to break the rules, God knows how many times, because it would give them an advantage.
"3. Rodney Harrison personally violated the rules regarding performance enhancing drugs as many other players in all professional sports have, most recently Paul Byrd of the Cleveland Indians. They are cheaters, not their coaches. No one is accusing Eric Wedge of cheating despite the actions of his player, why should Belachik be accused?"
Oh, many other players do it too, that makes it okay? Ever heard the expression "The buck stops here?" President Truman had a sign saying that on his desk. The Coach is the leader of any NFL team. He is the face of the team, and egg gets on his face when one of his players does something wrong. No, Bellicheat is not the one who took the drugs, but the leader of any organization is ultimately responsible for the actions of their members. As for the Indians and their hypocrite pitcher...that story is relatively inconsequential because the Indians lost despite their cheating (thanks to the Red Sox coming back dramatically to win ALCS!). Had they won, sure the pitching coach and the manager would be in hot water.
".4. NFL Security controls the communication systems in every stadium. The fact that the communications cut out in Gillette cannot be attributed to the Patriots. Once the communications cut out, it is the team's responsibility to notify the NFL who will then shut off the opponents communication as well."
Yes, that's how it's supposed to work. It's just that there have been more than just one or two instances over the years at Gillette stadium where the opponent's wireless communications *just happened* to go out. When this happens, there are a precious few minutes of time when the Pats are allowed to continue using their system--the lag time where there is some troubleshooting with the visitors' system and the NFL decides to cut off the home team's system as well. Even if it's for one play, it's an unfair advantage. Even if it's for no plays, it's an unfair advantage if the visiting team has the ball and is driving down the field.
Yes indeed, big game tomorrow indeed. Good vs. evil, INDEED. The Colts are the Red Sox of the NFL. Champions who got to the top with honest work and classy leadership.
Hey, you're right...I was referring to a *separate* cheating incident by the Cheatriots. (it's hard to keep track--there are so many, you know). They got penalized this year specifically for cheating during the Jets' game. But last year when they played the Packers the very same cameraman got caught doing the very same thing. In the cheating incident against the Packers, the cameraman did get caught at halftime. The Packers, being a team with superior sportsmanship, didn't make a stink about it at the time. They only got caught because Mangini, an estranged protege of Bill Bellicheat, knew it was coming (as he probably participated in the same cheating while he was with the Patriots). Sorry about the mixup on my part, but the fact that I confused multiple incidents of the Pats cheating merely illustrates the fact that, well, there are multiple incidents of the Pats cheating.
"2. Lots of teams tape - Belachiks infraction was about were he taped from. The same taping taking place by a staff member in the stands would not have been an infraction. "
Right, so why didn't the Cheatriots do their taping from a *licit* vantage point instead? Because that wouldn't give them the same viewing angle as the illicit tactic employed by the Pats, that's why. The specificity in the NFL rules exists for a reason. The Cheatriots chose to break the rules, God knows how many times, because it would give them an advantage.
"3. Rodney Harrison personally violated the rules regarding performance enhancing drugs as many other players in all professional sports have, most recently Paul Byrd of the Cleveland Indians. They are cheaters, not their coaches. No one is accusing Eric Wedge of cheating despite the actions of his player, why should Belachik be accused?"
Oh, many other players do it too, that makes it okay? Ever heard the expression "The buck stops here?" President Truman had a sign saying that on his desk. The Coach is the leader of any NFL team. He is the face of the team, and egg gets on his face when one of his players does something wrong. No, Bellicheat is not the one who took the drugs, but the leader of any organization is ultimately responsible for the actions of their members. As for the Indians and their hypocrite pitcher...that story is relatively inconsequential because the Indians lost despite their cheating (thanks to the Red Sox coming back dramatically to win ALCS!). Had they won, sure the pitching coach and the manager would be in hot water.
".4. NFL Security controls the communication systems in every stadium. The fact that the communications cut out in Gillette cannot be attributed to the Patriots. Once the communications cut out, it is the team's responsibility to notify the NFL who will then shut off the opponents communication as well."
Yes, that's how it's supposed to work. It's just that there have been more than just one or two instances over the years at Gillette stadium where the opponent's wireless communications *just happened* to go out. When this happens, there are a precious few minutes of time when the Pats are allowed to continue using their system--the lag time where there is some troubleshooting with the visitors' system and the NFL decides to cut off the home team's system as well. Even if it's for one play, it's an unfair advantage. Even if it's for no plays, it's an unfair advantage if the visiting team has the ball and is driving down the field.
Yes indeed, big game tomorrow indeed. Good vs. evil, INDEED. The Colts are the Red Sox of the NFL. Champions who got to the top with honest work and classy leadership.
Nov 4th, 2007, 12:12 PM
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Bennie..
send e-mail address so I can send you some interesting Quincy stuff, c. 1904
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