Venice hotel or apt---time to choose.
Apr 11th, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Just for the record, I think looking at a website, seeing the prices listed "per accomodation" and then going to the same websites FAQ and seeing it clearly defined as "prices are per person" is hardly "jumping to negative conclusions". The website is clearly at fault and it would not be illogical to assume that their facts are straight. In this case they weren't and hopefully they will correct the incorrect "facts" on their website soon.
I'll agree that many people would not continue reading clear throught this thread, but then I have no reason to believe those same people will happen to also click on to a separate thread that clarifies this mistake on a website. But it was nice of you to try anyway, JeanneB.
I'll agree that many people would not continue reading clear throught this thread, but then I have no reason to believe those same people will happen to also click on to a separate thread that clarifies this mistake on a website. But it was nice of you to try anyway, JeanneB.
Apr 11th, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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JeanneB: Re location: The location of the hotel you like may be exactly what you want BUT as for needing sthg "closer in" than the Foscarini:
I stayed right opposite in Feb. 2004 -- i.e. Foscarini is just a step from the north side of Rio dei Carmini and we were on the south side of the same stretch of that canal.
In other words: we were 1 minute from the Foscarini.
We found the location ideal!! Quiet, not isolated.
We walked (yes, with our luggage) to the train station -- though the bridges were a bit of a drag.
We walked everywhere else in Venice, too -- and were glad that we were not in the thickest of the thick of things near San Marco, where the crowds are sometimes oppressive.
The hotel may win on other points or attributes. But on the question of location, it would be a question of splitting hairs.
And BTW: The Foscarini location is ideal for the Frari church, for the Scuola di San Rocco etc.
I stayed right opposite in Feb. 2004 -- i.e. Foscarini is just a step from the north side of Rio dei Carmini and we were on the south side of the same stretch of that canal.
In other words: we were 1 minute from the Foscarini.
We found the location ideal!! Quiet, not isolated.
We walked (yes, with our luggage) to the train station -- though the bridges were a bit of a drag.
We walked everywhere else in Venice, too -- and were glad that we were not in the thickest of the thick of things near San Marco, where the crowds are sometimes oppressive.
The hotel may win on other points or attributes. But on the question of location, it would be a question of splitting hairs.
And BTW: The Foscarini location is ideal for the Frari church, for the Scuola di San Rocco etc.
Apr 12th, 2005 | 03:20 AM
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English is no problem at all. Getting people to speak Italian with me was more of a problem, LOL.
You will get many recommendations for restaurants on these threads. My favourite was just south of there: I think it was Avogaria but will have to check and get back to you tonight --
You will get many recommendations for restaurants on these threads. My favourite was just south of there: I think it was Avogaria but will have to check and get back to you tonight --
Apr 12th, 2005 | 03:55 AM
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I'm sorry, Tedgale, I was referring to the neighborhood around the apartments...what is it like?
The extra space is really tempting me, but there's one other factor. Being our first time, we'll benefit from having someone on premises to advise us. That's less likely in an apt.
The extra space is really tempting me, but there's one other factor. Being our first time, we'll benefit from having someone on premises to advise us. That's less likely in an apt.
Apr 12th, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Re the neighbourhood: I checked out the website for Avogaria, which is www.avogaria.com.
Chic, not overly pricey, international clientele but not touristy. Looks like nothing from outside but the tiny entry opens up into a smart inner room and a covered courtyard/ garden.
Very very nice food and service. On the tiny Calle dell'Avogaria.
Pugliese cuisine, apparently -- who knew?
But the neighbourhood: It is quiet and picturesque. Just WEST of there is a very neutral area with some modern buildings. But this area is redolent of the "real" Venice.
And just across the canal -- i.e. 60 seconds walk -- is Campo S.ta Margherita, a large, famous, lively square with about 5 restaurants/ bars.
There is not much retail of the "luxury goods"/ designer clothing type -- that is primarily found just west of P.za San Marco.
For food we went to the trusty Billa, a chain supermarket about 5-10 minutes south, on the fondamenta facing out to the lagoon and the Giudecca. (I can find you the address if you need it.)
As Bkfst was supplied in our apartment rental (delivered daily by the maid) and we ate out every evening, I have scant recollection of local bakers, butchers etc.
FYI: I once knew Venice well and I do speak Italian. But prior to our Feb. 2004 trip, I had not been in Venice since 1977. Getting settled and making our way around was NOT hard. A pleasure, in fact.
Venice is TINY though dense. Everything is pedestrian-oriented, naturally.
It is, of course, easy to get lost. Very easy. But a concierge cannot help you with that.
Chic, not overly pricey, international clientele but not touristy. Looks like nothing from outside but the tiny entry opens up into a smart inner room and a covered courtyard/ garden.
Very very nice food and service. On the tiny Calle dell'Avogaria.
Pugliese cuisine, apparently -- who knew?
But the neighbourhood: It is quiet and picturesque. Just WEST of there is a very neutral area with some modern buildings. But this area is redolent of the "real" Venice.
And just across the canal -- i.e. 60 seconds walk -- is Campo S.ta Margherita, a large, famous, lively square with about 5 restaurants/ bars.
There is not much retail of the "luxury goods"/ designer clothing type -- that is primarily found just west of P.za San Marco.
For food we went to the trusty Billa, a chain supermarket about 5-10 minutes south, on the fondamenta facing out to the lagoon and the Giudecca. (I can find you the address if you need it.)
As Bkfst was supplied in our apartment rental (delivered daily by the maid) and we ate out every evening, I have scant recollection of local bakers, butchers etc.
FYI: I once knew Venice well and I do speak Italian. But prior to our Feb. 2004 trip, I had not been in Venice since 1977. Getting settled and making our way around was NOT hard. A pleasure, in fact.
Venice is TINY though dense. Everything is pedestrian-oriented, naturally.
It is, of course, easy to get lost. Very easy. But a concierge cannot help you with that.
Apr 12th, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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Tedgale,
I can't thank you enough for all the information you've provided.
I've decided to take the "diplomatic" way out. Having planned the entire trip, I gave this one to my friend for her to decide. I feel so unburdened!
I'll definitely do a trip report whichever way we go. Thanks, everyone.
Jeanne
I can't thank you enough for all the information you've provided.
I've decided to take the "diplomatic" way out. Having planned the entire trip, I gave this one to my friend for her to decide. I feel so unburdened!
I'll definitely do a trip report whichever way we go. Thanks, everyone.
Jeanne
Apr 13th, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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Try www.oikos-venice.com
I've just spent 6 days in a fabuluous apartment literally one minute from Piazza St Marco right behind the Correr Museum, They have around 40 apartments on their books, from ones that sleep 2 up to palazzos sleeping 12! I paid around 900euros for the 6 days for an apartment that slept 6-7. Bruno & Lucia were very helpful at all times. Have a look at their website. Also another time I stayed in a palazzo on a canal, on a bed and breakfast, but with our own key (just on Calle dei Fabbri)and as a hotel organises the bookings we left our luggage there. www.palazzoduodo.com. Good luck and have fun!
I've just spent 6 days in a fabuluous apartment literally one minute from Piazza St Marco right behind the Correr Museum, They have around 40 apartments on their books, from ones that sleep 2 up to palazzos sleeping 12! I paid around 900euros for the 6 days for an apartment that slept 6-7. Bruno & Lucia were very helpful at all times. Have a look at their website. Also another time I stayed in a palazzo on a canal, on a bed and breakfast, but with our own key (just on Calle dei Fabbri)and as a hotel organises the bookings we left our luggage there. www.palazzoduodo.com. Good luck and have fun!
Apr 13th, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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Apr 13th, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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sorry, there's no hyphen. it's www.oikosvenice.com
Apr 13th, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Final note:
Ca' Satriano made the choice easy. They wrote back and offered us the Conservatory Room. Their larges room. Canal and plaza view, with the music conservatory across the way to serenade us! Rate 140 euro.
Done!
Ca' Satriano made the choice easy. They wrote back and offered us the Conservatory Room. Their larges room. Canal and plaza view, with the music conservatory across the way to serenade us! Rate 140 euro.
Done!
