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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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LOL, true enough nytraveler. Why mention it? Can you imagine the trip report?

"The Parisian hotels are awful! The beds were so small that we couldn't fit the extra person into one of the single beds. We had to draw straws to see who would sleep on the extra 2 inches of floor space left in the room. I was clever enough to draw the long straw after super gluing it to the palm of my hand. My traveling companions were Suckers to fall for it but that's why I like to travel with them."
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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I don't think jsims is being rewarded by the posts on here, as someone said, it's just an interesting discussion that people are participating in, willingly.

I do believe jsims later said in about post 10 or so that he really meant two double beds, not twin beds. Of course, that is pretty hard to find in Paris, anyway, so you really are limited to hotels when you specify that. I just don't get the whole point, as to get two double/queen beds you'd have to stay in an expensive hotel to begin with. For that price, you could have your own rooms in a more modest hotel. I personally (if I were the third wheel here) much rather have my own room in a more budget hotel than a 4* Sofitel (which I think was the target here).

If a hotel "has no problem" with this, then you don't need to be hiding anything. You just register the three people and get the room and pay a flat rate for the room. In the US, some hotels do have no problem with 3 people in a room, in which case, you just tell them.

I don't think most hotels charge 50 euro extra for a triple over double, anyway, as jsims said -- except the expensive ones. It can happen, but then you'd get a larger room and more a real bed. the 3* hotel I usually stay at in Paris charges 20 euro more when it's an extra bed in a larger double room. For a suite, they charge 10-20 euro extra for each person beyond two. They also have a two-bedroom apt. on the ground floor of the hotel, and they charge 25 euro extra if four people occupy that rather than 3. I think those are very reasonable costs.

I think in the US, the fact that parents told a kid to stay in the car during registration didn't necessarily mean they were trying to cheat the hotel/motel (or it could be), as others said, a lot of US motels/hotels wouldn't charge extra for small children in the same room, and a lot of US motels do have two double or queen beds in the rooms. So that example doesn't really have anything to do with Parisian hotel customs. Really, if the argument was that there is nothing wrong with it and hotels don't mind, there wouldn't be any need for sneaking people around, obviously.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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In my experience US and Canadian hotels charge usually charge extra for a 3rd person in a 2 double bed room. It is only kids under some specified age (varies by the hotel) who can stay free when in the same room as their parents.
I don't think college kids staying 5 to 6 in a room in the US are following the hotel rules.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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LSky, your rendition of jsims trip report was just to funny for words. "The Parisian hotels are awful! The beds were so small that we couldn't fit the extra person into one of the single beds. We had to draw straws to see who would sleep on the extra 2 inches of floor space left in the room. I was clever enough to draw the long straw after super gluing it to the palm of my hand. My traveling companions were Suckers to fall for it but that's why I like to travel with them."

ROFL. I am still laughing.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Thanks grapes!
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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While I have come to the conclusion that the OP is probably some high school student bored at the end of too long a summer vacation who has figured out how to push the buttons of most people on this board, I'll offer the following anecdote, since we seem to be short on them:

I just returned from a 3-week trip to France last night, the last four nights of which were spent at a hotel in Paris. While at the desk one morning talking to the concierge, there was a huge commotion behind me. The very small elevator emptied out and there suddenly at the front desk were two men I recognized as being hotel staff and an Italian family of 5: mom, dad, and three teenage kids. They were unceremoniously herded to the front desk, where they were told in no uncertain terms that they had to vacate the hotel within 30 minutes and pay a fine, or else pay for three rooms, NOT the standard double they had apparently paid for.

The husband was flailing around and yelling in a mixture of Italian and French - they hadn't used anything from the minibar, what was the problem if they had the kids sleep on the floor, whose business was it if they wanted to jam up together in a cramped little room, they'd paid for their coffee and juice at breakfast.....yadayadayada.....they hadn't demanded any extra amenities...He sounded just like the OP here....in his opinion it was his right to put a whole household of people in that double room.

The hotel concierge reiterated that a double room was, under Paris law, for TWO people. Did he want to be escorted out of the hotel by the police and fined, or did he want to book more rooms and pay the difference for the previous night?

I didn't stick around to find out the outcome...but it was a pretty damn embarrassing scene. And from the looks of it, the family was either going to be leaving with a police escort or handing over a large sum of cash they hadn't expected to expend.

IF you're an actual real person, jsims, I can only hope you find yourself in the same situation, because you seem dead bent on flouting human decency.


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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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StCirq: The OP won't believe you of course because kerouac essentially told him not to worry . . .

And s/he definitely isn't a bored teen, since they've been to Paris before and even posted a trip report of sorts complaining about some of the things already noted elsewhere in this thread (no drinks refills, French speaking, and a rude French woman - in Belgium of all places )

We can only hope they stick w/ the plan and tries to pull this - it would be real justice if they were thrown out in the streets like that Italian family.

I really don't know why they even want to go back to Paris since they were so abused last time . . . .
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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See, Janis:

I think it's entirely possible the whole first trip to Paris was also fabricated by this nutcase to push our buttons, and now he's bored again and back again with the same old tired attitude. Frankly, I don't care.

And of course he won't believe me. I just thought it was an interesting coincidence that I actually encountered pretty much this exact scenario last week, so it apparently DOES happen, at least in a small hotel where staff are definitely going to know who you are, how many of you there are, and what you're up to while on the premises.

If he is real, I can't fathom why he's going back to Paris, either, although I imagine the reception he gets there isn't much warmer than the one he gets anywhere. Boors get treated as they deserve wherever they are. Still, one wonders what appeal Paris holds, except he probably brags to his friends about his trips there when he gets back and acts all know-it-all about what snobs they are and how hard it is to get away with irregularities in hotel bookings.

I take some consolation in the fact that most French people know how to deal with a character of this sort. This sort of behavior brings out the national pride in them, and it's often pretty glorious to behold.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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<<This sort of behavior brings out the national pride in them, and it's often pretty glorious to behold>>

yep - I've seen examples of that for sure . . . . .
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Got to say I agree with artsnletters, ozziez and stcirq on this one. IMHO, ignoring jsims, and agreeing that we all agree that putting more people in a room than is allowed is immoral, illegal, and plain wrong, is the way to go.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Hello StCirq, that three weeks went by fast, imagine it did for you also.

And I can just imagine the scene in the hotel lobby, lol. Wish you could have stayed long enough to find out what the end result was, pay up or be excorted out by the police. Mama mia!

Well perhaps jsims will give us a "trip report" after he returns from his adventures in Paris.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Oh, somehow I doubt there will be a trip report. Just a hunch.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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It doesn't seem like the OP is a teenager. I would bet that the OP is traveling with his wife and mother because someone started a thread called "Paris Hotel" asking pretty much the question. Only this time he has found some hotels he likes.

Oh my, I can't believe that I care.
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Old Aug 21st, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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LOL LSky, I can't either, meaning I can't believe I care. But it is amusing. And I am sure St.Cirq is correct, we will not get a trip report.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2008 | 04:37 AM
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jsims jsims lend me your spare bed
All along, down along, out along lee
For I want a cheap lodging to lay down my head
With Bill Brewer, Jan Stewer, Peter Gurney
Peter Davy, Daniel Whiddon, Harry Hawk
Old Uncle Tom Cobleigh and all
Old Uncle Tom Cobleigh and all.

When the wind whistles cold through a room in Paree
All along, down along, out along lee
The concierge screams as she thinks she can see
Bill Brewer, Jan Stewer, Peter Gurney
Peter Davy, Daniel Whiddon, Harry Hawk
Old Uncle Tom Cobleigh and all
Old Uncle Tom Cobleigh and all
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Old Aug 22nd, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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You guys are crazy. Either that or you don't have anything else to do. However, you make me laugh and that's a good thing. I'm going to Paris because I like the city. I'm not going back there for the waiters who suck. No one abused me there or anywhere else. I can take care of myself and if you think a rude Frenchman is going to intimidate me you're mistaken. I fight fire with fire. I will provide a trip report if I'm bored and have nothing to do and I think I will bring my dog with me and put him in the room with 4 of my friends just to piss the hotel off.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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Are you telling me he's sharing a room with his wife and his mother????

Not a way I would care to travel - nor would my beau put up with it.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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I could not care less what other people do.

I mostly don't understand the point of posting the question. How can we say whether it is "possible to put three people..." Sure you can likely get away with it. I hope jsims does this and is willing to post a trip report and tell us how things turn out. I'd love to hear that it was a piece of cake, no one cared, and there was plenty of room for 3 people in a double room. And about the fight he had with the waiter in the cafe.

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Old Aug 22nd, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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LoveItaly, it's amazing how the internet full fills that great need for us to be, as Deborah Harry so succinctly put it, “sidewalk sociologist” and what a great sidewalk!
Even the OP, even though he’s shady in this area, he’s still able to come back and have a giggle at the situation. Gotta love it. I adore people.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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I can't believe I scrolled down the post listing and this is still rearing its ugly head.

Since jims has just said "[we're] crazy...or don't have anything else to do," it's time to dig a hole and bury this thing.
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