Spending One Day in Vienna, What to Do?

Old Jan 6th, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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I would NOT go to both Schonbrunn + Hofburg Palace; if you meant touring the interiors of both. It's fine if you go to Schonbrunn in the AM, then just walk around Old Town in the afternoon (and walk around the outside of Hofburg Palace).
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Old Jan 6th, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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Molker: I went to the Weinbar in November 2008 when Coburg received the Gault Millau toque as one of the top 5 restaurants in Austria.  I was impressed with the Weinbistro prices and value considering it was still led by Petz (a "chef of the year"), but I wouldn't recommend the expensive restaurant.  Yes, I am aware that Christian Petz moved to Palais Schwarzenberg after that due to disagreement  with the east german Coburg owner.  I heard that the Coburg has reopened with a new star chef as of January 2011 to regain their prominence as a gourmet temple.  I still think that the 29 euro lunch at the Coburg Weinbar is a great value (even without Petz) for many of us who are on a budget.  

Anyway, now I understand that you're comparing the expensive Coburg restaurant to the cheaper Steiereck Meieri while I am comparing the cheaper Coburg Weinbistro to the real and expensive Steiereck.  We are talking about 4 different places, related but with different price tags.  Meieri sounds really cheap compared to the original Steiereck, what a bargain, is it a bistro version? My wife's cousin told me that all the high end restaurants in Vienna had a tough time last year and quite a few had to close their doors.  

          
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Old Jan 7th, 2011 | 12:12 AM
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I believe you should not venture comments about dining in places when the last experience was more than 2 years ago.
Your information is not only outdated but incorrect.

Example Petz is not at Palais Schwarzenberg.
The complete hotel has been closed for a total renovation for several years now.It has no specific date for reopening and Petz certainly cannot work in a kitchen that is not open.
I compare prices for the Meierei at Steirereck ( current prices ) with the Coburg Wein Bistro ( yours mentioned supposedly 2 years ago ? ) thus comparing " like" entities. My comment on quality and value stand.
The rating system I mention is Austria wide with many thousand diners submitting their review book. I believe the system has enough diverse diners to supply at accurate measurement of dining possibilities. Note - seversl other rwting systems find similar results. The Wein Bistro not even mentioned.

As for ratings , I can only compare those existing places.

As I happen to live in Vienna , I do dine out a little.
The Wein Bistro would not be a place where I would now dine or recommend.
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Old Jan 7th, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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Whoa Molker, how many fodorites do you think visit Vienna every year to fulfill your criteria?
I suppose we should leave all the comments to you alone since you're the only one who lives there.
I only read after our trip that Petz moved to Palais Schwarzenberg, I wasn't there to witness or investigate it. Relax I'm only recommending the Weinbar and Central Cafe which I know are not the best in the world but nevertheless worth recommending for Vienna.

Don't be shocked that the last time I was at Steiereck was 3 years ago in 2007 and it was exorbitantly expensive and the service was spotty because they were understaffed during the convention weekend, but then again their service was also spotty when we ate there before. They forgot our specific request, we waited a long time for a missing fork, they just disappeared too often that we felt like we were left to our own devices which was unacceptable for the prices they charged. Nevertheless it is my kids' most memorable restaurant, not in Paris, New York or London but in Vienna of all places! They still talk about their dessert at the Steiereck: 7 scoops of ice cream in a long bread box that could fit a baguette. Never been to the Meierei, so thanks for updating about the cheaper Steiereck maybe we can take our kids there next time.
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Old Jan 7th, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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You're right Molker, the new star chef Silvio Nickol at Coburg is serving his food without the big restaurant as it is still being remodeled till this spring. I just checked the Coburg Wine bar website: http://www.palais-coburg.com/_en/ind...gourmet-events
Forgive me Molker, but the 2 course meal is now only 25 euro! I love that place (for Vienna).
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Old Jan 7th, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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Dax - anyone can comment - but those comments should be accurate - your comment " I suppose we should leave all comments to you alone since you are the only one who lives there." this totally false and unwarranted.
I note the errors of yours regarding Coburg, chefs etc. regarding dining. Information to posters should be correct as they are often basis for travel decisions. Perhaps you just do not like to be found to provide some less than accurate info.
If I remember correctly, another comment by you regarding train arrival in Vienna- that to a train station demolished more than 1 year ago and now in the slow process of re- building.
The train in question arrives at a station far removed.

Such things are my basis for making some comments here to correct outdated and inaccurate info.
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Old Jan 8th, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Molker it's your tone that is abrassive. I had a problem your absolute negative tone about the Weinbar which you haven't even tried. The Coburg restaurant is NOT the weinbar, just like the Meierei is NOT the Steiereck. We all made recommendations to help other travellers from our direct experience and everyone has their highlights and disappointments, your tone is self righteous without having a direct experience of dining at the Weinbar. I had my disappointment at the Steiereck twice but at least I tried it twice personally. That said I would not shoot down the Meierei since I haven't tried it.

I have no problem about your correction about the recent closure of Sudbahnhof as I was talking from my direct experience and I could careless if the Sudbahnhof is now closed and I'm glad you updated it. However it is abrassive to shoot down other people's genuine restaurant/site recommendations especially if you haven't tried it personally. It is however wonderful that you take the time to update us with the latest changes in Vienna. I always enjoy my visits to Vienna and even visited it twice in 2008.
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Old Jan 8th, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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You assume too much and read only what you wish.
I have eaten at Coburg and so noted this in my prior comments - both the old restaurant and bistro.
I have dined many times at Steirereck both main restaurant and Meierei so speak from actual dining.
I assume I am abrasive to you as I make some comments about outdated and misleading info.
My opinion-it should be done to provide travelers with good information. Commenting on restaurants that have closed facilities , made numerous changes of chef staff and assuming that an assessment is still valid after these occurances and several years in time are not the best thing in my opinion.
If you consider my comments abrasive - then no need to read them.

I finish with this subject now.
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Old Jan 8th, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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Is this like the plot from the movie "Before Sunrise?"
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Old Jan 9th, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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I'd like to clear the water so that the OP and other readers don't miss out on this hidden gourmet treasure starting at 25 euro for a two course lunch (42 for a 3 course dinner).  

Contrary to what Molker claimed, the Coburg WEINBISTRO WAS NEVER CLOSED AND IS OPEN:     http://www.palais-coburg.com/_en/ind...age=weinbistro
The place is more than just another elegant wine bistro, it has a smart garden setting with a view and in the evening it provides a romantic setting for an evening dinner in the sky garden.

This Weinbar remains open even after they were forced to close the full restaurant due to a major
dispute with its neighboring gallery tenant right to move their kitchen firewall.  The Coburg it fought all the way to the Austrian supreme court but lost, however the full restaurant kitchen will reopen this
spring when the new kitchen is finished.
      
While I have only experienced the Weinbistro under the previous star chef Christian Petz, the entire Coburg gourmet establishment has hired a new star chef Silvio Nickol since October 2010.  He is known to be the new shooting star chef who earned two Michelin stars in both of his two previous restaurants.
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Old Jan 10th, 2011 | 01:37 AM
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Dax - normally I would not even bother to respond to such a
post snd had intended to finish this subject before.

But my comment that you read only what you wish here is confirmed again.
You seem intent on stating things that are just false to suit your purpose.
Firstly, I never claimed that the Bistro was closed .
If you take the time to comprehend posts you will note my comment January 6 9:50 - " Coburg MAIN Restaurant was forced to close".
It seems you misspeak again.

It seems you are in a very small minority with your comments about Coburg quality.

Here at Fodors -under Vienna Restaurants not even a mention of the Coburg while featuring many other places in all categories including Steirereck.( best in Vienna )
Another known web travel forum provides an index of Vienna restaurants - Coburg is far down the list.
Their basis for the is posted diners reviews and ratings.

Similar less than great current ratings in Gault Millau and Falstaff while Steirereck receives top accolades.

Lets face facts - when a place has 3 or more chefs in about two years a problem exists , it receives lackluster ratings - many better places to dine in Vienna exist.

Perhaps you like it - that is your right - but you seem to have few that agree with this assessment.

Now , I have important things to do.
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Old Jan 10th, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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I was clarifying in response to your negative comment that I was "Commenting on restaurants that have closed facilities..." 
The simple truth is the Weinbistro that I recommended was never closed as one may deduct from your comment. One should maintain focus that I only recommend the Central Cafe and the Coburg Weinbistro, not the main restaurant.  I have recommended the Steirereck in the past for those on expense account because, seriously, my last dinner there cost 700 euro for a family with two kids.          

"It seems you are in a very small minority with your comments about Coburg quality." 
If you are a wine lover/collector, you would appreciate the Coburg Weinbistro as the place to access one of the greatest cellar collection in Europe (over 60 thousand bottles & 5000 selections). The Coburg is written up in various wine publications internationally. The food and wine prices are significantly lower at the Weinbistro than at restaurants of that caliber, so it is a great value.  To top that, the Coburg Weinbistro has a uniquely wonderful character/ambiance to it.  As I mentioned before, the Weinbistro is not to be compared to the Steirereck (like comparing a BMW with a Ferarri) because it is not a restaurant and the prices reflect that.  I hope this long thread will at least peak some of the readers' curiosity to visit the Coburg Weinbar.       
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Old Jan 15th, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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AMEN!
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Old Jan 21st, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Vienna is surrounded by vineyards and there is a drink available there only for a few weeks -- kind of like an alcoholic grape juice -- called sturm. You have to have it! I was there just this past September. It's SO good! It will likely be written on the specials board or you can ask for it.
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Old Aug 2nd, 2016 | 06:24 AM
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Hello could you help mi a bit also? During my summer vacations I will have almost a full day between 2 flights in Vienna. I'm looing for the fastest safest and most reliable transfer from the airport to the city centre and back on time... money is not a problem that much, but of course don't want the have twice as much as I should... I found this service http://wientransfer.com/, what do you think of them? Are they good do you anything of them?
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Old Aug 2nd, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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Peterzoardgarami,
Is there any reason why you are not considering an S-bahn train? There is a frequent S7 service to Mitte, and from there to various points via U-Bahn or tram. http://www.viennaairport.com/en/pass...burban_railway
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