francophile03

Miss Scarlett, that person who found the Hotel d'Angleterre's room to be musty is me. My family & I were put into room #47 last October. It was for only 2 nights and that was enough for us. It is true about the high rate-we paid 248 euro without breakfast which we did have once-a mistake at 9.15 euro/per person.

I cannot speak for the other rooms which some other guests have had better luck with. But others like me have posted comments on tripadvisor.com. I don't recommend Hotel d'Angleterre unless you want to take a chance as we did.

However, I agree that the rue Jacob is a great area to stay, so very close to St. Germain-very nice neighborhood so close to the Seine, rue Buci, and Luxembourg Gardens. Never stayed on rue Cler but have read that it's a bit quiet at night.

Maybe the Hotel des Deux Continents or Hotel Millesime are nicer than the d'Angleterre. They are also on rue Jacob.

jody

Though we usually stay right on the Rue Jacob, there are some very nice smaller hotels on nearby streets. such as the Verneuil , 1 block closer to the Seine. What you really want is the Rue Jacob area. The rooms at the Verneuil are small but very nicely furnished and exceptionally clean. We used to stay at the D'Angleterre , but I have to agree with Francophile the last time we stayed there is was definitely showing signs of tiredness.

The last few trips we've used the Millesime and have been most happy, we had a superior room which is a good size. I peeked into one of the standard rooms and they looked fine.

We are trying the Du danube this trip, so we'll see!

Gretchen

As far as the rue Cler being overrun with tourists, I think on any given day you will find that the shoppers are the French folks from the surrounding residential neighborhoods. When we were there last fall we had breakfast at the Cafe Marche and enjoyed watching a coffee klatsch of young mothers pull up with their children in strollers to have a cafe and conversation. Also didn't notice any empty store fronts from "rents going up because of Rick Steves". Please don't give him that kind of power.

ira

>...it is where the Declaration of Independence was signed. Ben Franklin brought it there and stayed there at that time. <

I'm afraid that the Hotel Angleterre is mistaken. The Declaration was signed by the members of the Continental Congress in Philadelphia on July 4, 1776. Dr Franklin was one of the signers.

See http://www.thedeclarationofindependence.org/

Franklin was sent to paris in December of that year.

jody

In September 1783 , in Paris, Benjamin Franklin delivered the FINAL TREATY of Independence to the British government ..not the Declaration of Independence that was signed in 1776.

Whether it is legend I don't know but I've heard that he wouldn't step inside the the British Embassy until then as it is considered English soil.

jody

Don't you wish Fodor's had an edit function??

http://www.underthesun.cc/Classics/V...TreatyofIndep/

mclaurie

Another hotel I found on the web (no personal experience)on Rue Jacob is Hotel Villa St Germaine
http://www.paris-hotel-villastgermai.../location.html

There appear to be some discounts on rates which run 200+ euros.

I've stayed on Rue Saint Peres which runs perpendicular to Jacob. There are a number of hotels there. Friends stay at Hotel St Peres & like it. I stayed at Hotel Pas du Calais (cheap & cheerful is what I recall. It's been a while).

Here's a Frommers review. http://www.frommers.com/ads/house/re...cfm?contest=34

DonTopaz

If the atmosphere of rue Cler is appealing but you're turned off by its discovery by tourists, consider the rue Montorgueil area, in the 1st and 2nd arrondissements. It's a pedestrian street, lined with shops and restaurants and sidewalk cafes, a wonderful place to hang out and watch Paris pass by. It's also steps away from les Halles (big shopping center) and the Pompidou museum, and not much further away from Notre-Dame and the Marais. I know of only one hotel on the rue Montorgueil itself (the Victories-Opera - nice place, but a bit overpriced), but several reasonably-priced places are near les Halles.

jody

We stopped into the La Villa on our trip last fall ..it is really glamourous , all leather and sleek wood..but out of my price range ,

It is a beauty though!

Scarlett

Good morning!
1- The Angleterre has no a/c so I would skip it for a summer stay.
2- The Treaty of Paris was signed, by which England recognized the Independence of the 13 American colonies ..
Ben Franklin, John Adams and John Jay signed on behalf of the US..

I believe that Francophile has been there more recently than I or other posters, so it could be so that they have gotten relaxed on the good reviews and let things slide. I would hate to have anyone disappointed because of my review! I guess I will have to make the Yankee take me again soon, like this fall and we will do some research for my friends at Fodors ~
I know I know, I shouldn't but I would love to be more helpful and what better way than to go there in person, it is worth the sacrifice for my friends ~

grandmere

Seems to me there's a plaque somewhere on rue Jacob noting that Richard Wagner lived there for a bit.

flsd

I've stayed at the Grand Hotel Leveque twice (1990 and 2002), having discovered it through a NON-Rick Steves guidebook (zut alors!), and am quite satisfied with the hotel and with Rue Cler. The location is good and the rates are reasonable. So what if most of the other guests at that particular hotel are American or English-speaking? We had almost no contact with other guests, only at breakfast (and even if we did, again - so what?).

The street is busy with Parisians going about their normal business, there are some nice restaurants within just a few blocks, and my husband - a marathoner - loved being so close to the Champs de Mars, where he could do his daily run.

pj

My sixth trip to Paris, third time to Hotel Danube! I love the area around Rue Jacob! PJ

Mark_va

I agree with flsd. so what if you see a few Americans carrying Steve's book.
Didn't make those great roast chickens, cheeses, baguettes, croissants, Grand Marnier crepes, chocolates, grapes, St. Emilion "house" wine, etc. (all at grocery store prices) taste any
less fantastic.

capo

Re: &quot;<i>As far as the rue Cler being overrun with tourists, I think on any given day you will find that the shoppers are the French folks from the surrounding residential neighborhoods.</i>

Ah, au contraire! There have been stories of unruly mobs of Rick Steves aficionados forming flying wedges and literally sweeping Rue Cler of locals, occasionally causing quite a commotion when a local is hit by the tip of wedge and goes flying head-first into a rack of poulet roti.

Christina

I think they both are perfectly fine places, of course, you can't go wrong, but I'd also choose St Germain (not rue Jacob necessarily, but it has some nice hotels).

I find the Ecole Militaire area okay but have no particular fondness for rue Cler itself. It is full of American tourists IMO, and the only market street in Paris I've seen with American guidebooks on display. The surrounding neighborhood is okay, but I wouldn't spend a lot of time hanging out on that particular street and I never would want to stay right on it. It's not really that interesting and nothing you'd want to hang around all day or evening.

GotMonet

I'd probably vote for the Rue Jacob, too, but both are fine in reality...I agree with Gretchen that the Rue Cler is not overrun with tourists..It's a French pedestrian market street in the 7th..only a couple of blocks long..Probably more hotels from which to choose along Rue Jacob..Try these websites for pleasing your tastes and budget..
www.parishotels.com
www.anamericaninparis.com
Bon Voyage!

flsd

capo, you've found us out!

Seriously, who's going to spend all day &quot;hanging out&quot; on the Rue Cler, or any Parisian street?

Beatchick

I've stayed very near the rue Cler (rue Valadon) and I've walked down rue Jacob. I think I'd rather stay on the rue Jacob due to it's historical, literary, and arty background/feeling.

ec

Do tell Scarlett, et all - are we talking about the same PUP who was chasing or whatever the girl w/ the red dress? I was wondering whatever happened to him???

We need another post like that or another one from Betty &amp; Billy - whatever happened to them? Ah, for the good old days.