Need help with Germany/Austria itinerary
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Need help with Germany/Austria itinerary
Hi! Our family with two kids (7yo and 10yo) will be visiting Munich (day trip to Nuremberg), Salzburg (2D1N) in Dec. We are taking trains; not planning to drive.
Some questions:
- If we had time for only one trip, Neuschwanstein + Hohenschwangau or Herrenchiemsee Palace + boat?
- I had originally planned to do a day trip to Salzburg and 2D1N to Heidelberg. But after more research, it seems Salzburg might have more to explore than Heidelberg, especially since we would be travelling over the Christmas period. Even though shops/attractions are closed, I get the impression that Salzburg won’t be as quiet as Heidelberg. Would you agree?
- Should I then put Heidelberg as a day trip from Munich?
- Did anyone get Christmas market fatigue? Too much of a good thing?
- I’d like to visit Berlin too. But that would mean travelling from Salzburg to Berlin on a 6-7h train. We’ve done 14h flights but I’m not sure how my kids would take to such a long train ride. Please advise.
Thank you!
Some questions:
- If we had time for only one trip, Neuschwanstein + Hohenschwangau or Herrenchiemsee Palace + boat?
- I had originally planned to do a day trip to Salzburg and 2D1N to Heidelberg. But after more research, it seems Salzburg might have more to explore than Heidelberg, especially since we would be travelling over the Christmas period. Even though shops/attractions are closed, I get the impression that Salzburg won’t be as quiet as Heidelberg. Would you agree?
- Should I then put Heidelberg as a day trip from Munich?
- Did anyone get Christmas market fatigue? Too much of a good thing?
- I’d like to visit Berlin too. But that would mean travelling from Salzburg to Berlin on a 6-7h train. We’ve done 14h flights but I’m not sure how my kids would take to such a long train ride. Please advise.
Thank you!
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I get the impression that Salzburg won’t be as quiet as Heidelberg. Would you agree?
I can't compare Salzburg to Heidelberg specifically, but in my experience Salzburg has more open during the holidays than say, Munich. For that very reason, I've spent 2-3 Christmases there. Expect Salzburg to shut down around 2 pm on Christmas Eve, and partially come to life again on Christmas Day.
You've not mentioned how long this trip is in total, so hard to say if you'll get Christmas Market burn out or not. Also hard to say what will and won't be open. Do you have some specific dates?
I've found this website invaluable when planning trips to Salzburg:
https://www.salzburg.info/en
I can't compare Salzburg to Heidelberg specifically, but in my experience Salzburg has more open during the holidays than say, Munich. For that very reason, I've spent 2-3 Christmases there. Expect Salzburg to shut down around 2 pm on Christmas Eve, and partially come to life again on Christmas Day.
You've not mentioned how long this trip is in total, so hard to say if you'll get Christmas Market burn out or not. Also hard to say what will and won't be open. Do you have some specific dates?
I've found this website invaluable when planning trips to Salzburg:
https://www.salzburg.info/en
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If you're visiting in December, it’s best to keep your itinerary relaxed. Munich and Salzburg are great choices for the festive season, as both offer beautiful Christmas markets and a cozy winter atmosphere. Boat trips may not be ideal due to cold weather and short winter days. Including Berlin could make the trip hectic due to long train travel. Also, visiting too many Christmas markets may get boring, so it’s better to choose just a few. If you're traveling from the UK, remember to apply for a Germany Schengen visa from UK early and prepare a clear itinerary.
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If Op is British/US/Aus?NZ they do not need a Schengen visa. Whether or not they need an ETIAS by then remains to be seen, but if they do it will be easier to get than a visa.
If however they are a nationality that requires a visa they need to have everything in place and provide all the documentation requested well in advance it is true.
If however they are a nationality that requires a visa they need to have everything in place and provide all the documentation requested well in advance it is true.
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Yes for Munich and Salzburg
If you're visiting in December, it’s best to keep your itinerary relaxed. Munich and Salzburg are great choices for the festive season, as both offer beautiful Christmas markets and a cozy winter atmosphere. Boat trips may not be ideal due to cold weather and short winter days. Including Berlin could make the trip hectic due to long train travel. Also, visiting too many Christmas markets may get boring, so it’s better to choose just a few. If you're traveling from the UK, remember to apply for a Germany Schengen visa from UK early and prepare a clear itinerary.
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I may be the exception, but I never tire of Christmas markets. Each one has something different or special about it. Some have special activities for children. You’re looking at places with larger markets. Check on line to see if they have things that interest you and the children.
I think Heidelberg would be a great day trip. It’s a University town with a nice Christmas market and a great castle the children can explore.
I think Heidelberg would be a great day trip. It’s a University town with a nice Christmas market and a great castle the children can explore.
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We lived in Austria for seven years (with children roughly the same age) and have toured all that you propose, most of it at Christmas time. I echo the sentiments that you'll need to prepare for early closures on 24 December, and likely full closures on 25 and 26 December (St. Stephen's Day), and that the sun sets early.
In Salzburg, the Hohensalzburg Fortress and the Christmas Museum (delightful) will be open on 26 December, as will many of the shops and restaurants in the Old Town. We all enjoyed the cable car ride to Untersburg and the views from the top, as well.
Christmas Market Fatigue is real. For our family, the key was to visit them in the late afternoon/early evening. The twinkling lights and the Glühwein make everything merrier. The Nürnberg Market alone has 180 stalls and can both overwhelm and underwhelm simultaneously. Munich's Market we found delightful, including the decorated windows of the Galerie Kaufhaus department store. From my travel notes, the Salzburg Markets did not make much of an impression (the caveat being that we'd become "selective" about Christmas markets by the time we visited Salzburg's); I noted the collective favorites were the markets at Stern Brau (cozy) and Schloss Hellbrunn (setting).
As for the castles, here is where I will diagree with those who suggest skipping Herrenchiemsee. The boat ride is ~15 minutes, and then you'll have another ~15 minute walk to the palace. You'll be outdoors longer than that exploring Christmas markets. To me, Herrenchiemsee was grandiose; Hohenschwangau was warm and friendly; and Neuschwanstein was dreamy fantasy. Three different castles/palaces with three different styles. If I had to see them all again I would go in Ludwig's order: Hohenschwangau (his boyhood home); Herrenchiemsee (his royal setting); and Neuschwanstein (his fantasy escape).
In Salzburg, the Hohensalzburg Fortress and the Christmas Museum (delightful) will be open on 26 December, as will many of the shops and restaurants in the Old Town. We all enjoyed the cable car ride to Untersburg and the views from the top, as well.
Christmas Market Fatigue is real. For our family, the key was to visit them in the late afternoon/early evening. The twinkling lights and the Glühwein make everything merrier. The Nürnberg Market alone has 180 stalls and can both overwhelm and underwhelm simultaneously. Munich's Market we found delightful, including the decorated windows of the Galerie Kaufhaus department store. From my travel notes, the Salzburg Markets did not make much of an impression (the caveat being that we'd become "selective" about Christmas markets by the time we visited Salzburg's); I noted the collective favorites were the markets at Stern Brau (cozy) and Schloss Hellbrunn (setting).
As for the castles, here is where I will diagree with those who suggest skipping Herrenchiemsee. The boat ride is ~15 minutes, and then you'll have another ~15 minute walk to the palace. You'll be outdoors longer than that exploring Christmas markets. To me, Herrenchiemsee was grandiose; Hohenschwangau was warm and friendly; and Neuschwanstein was dreamy fantasy. Three different castles/palaces with three different styles. If I had to see them all again I would go in Ludwig's order: Hohenschwangau (his boyhood home); Herrenchiemsee (his royal setting); and Neuschwanstein (his fantasy escape).
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