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MaiTaiTom's Paris When It Sizzles; Paris When It Fizzles Anniversary Trip

MaiTaiTom's Paris When It Sizzles; Paris When It Fizzles Anniversary Trip

Old Mar 31st, 2015, 01:56 PM
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If Tracy, who had daily close contact with Tom, didn't get sick, I highly doubt he was so contagious. The first person who gets sick when I do is my husband and viceversa.

A quick google search of "acute bronchitis" (Mayo Clinic): "People who have chronic bronchitis or asthma sometimes develop acute bronchitis. In these cases, the acute bronchitis is most likely a complication of their existing condition, and not caused by an infectious virus, so it's less likely to be contagious."
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Old Mar 31st, 2015, 02:04 PM
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"who had daily close contact with Tom, didn't get sick…"

By the way, had she become ill, I would be dead today (and it would not have been from natural causes).

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Old Mar 31st, 2015, 08:53 PM
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For sure, some people, such as Tracy, are more immune to various viruses. But, the multitude are not. Tom was advised by the doctor in Paris that he had a virus. And, rather than stay home until he recovered, he chose to go all out and about and cough everywhere he went as well. And, it's a well known fact that supressing a cough due to acute bronchitis delays recovery. It's also a well known fact that one with acute bronchitis is contagious so long as symptoms are present.

So, I still stay that go wandering all about, in and out of public places, including restaurants, then to a huge airport, and board a plane with hundreds of other passengers, with a contagious illness all along the was, coughing all about, is positively inconsiderate.

<<it's highly likely that you have spread a lot of contagion yourself, without even realizing it >>

No, it is not. When I have symptoms, I consult doctor, and stay home (or in the hotel room, etc.) until I've recovered. And, my husband and stick to opposite ends of whatever dwelling.
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Old Mar 31st, 2015, 11:46 PM
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djkbooks - don't you think the people who clean your room - especially your towels, sheets, everything you've touched - will be exposed to your germs? Or maybe they're just immune...or maybe they don't matter?

You might not yet have noticed any "symptoms" - especially if you're enjoying yourself on vactation - but you can still be extremely contagious without realizing it.

Get over yourself.
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Old Apr 1st, 2015, 03:36 AM
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djkbooks, I always appreciate your contributions to Fodors. Your point on this issue has been made.

I regret that this has become contentious. This thread was otherwise pure pleasure for me and so many other fodorites. We have been through thick and thin with Tom and Tracy. We care about them and wish them well.

Tom has the ability to take us along on their trips like nobody else on Fodor's. I bet his trip reports reach more spouses-of-fodorites than anybody else's.

There are probably thousands of sick people working and walking in Paris on any given day, so let’s give Tom a break.
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Old Apr 1st, 2015, 03:51 PM
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I feel for you having bronchitis on a flight. I have have had a cough or bronchitis at least 6 times whilst travelling and there is no way I could have stayed o/s whilst the cough /virus got better -sometimes my coughs last for 4 weeks.I use codeine cough medicine which helps a little but is not easily available.I feel so bad coughing etc .Hope i never bump into that person who says stay until you are better.
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Old Apr 1st, 2015, 03:59 PM
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Wishing Tom amd Tracy a disease free, wonderful trip to Spain. You both deserve it. Thanks for hour trip reports. I love traveling along with you!
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Old Apr 1st, 2015, 05:36 PM
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I enjoyed this trip report. However, I also wondered why you would continue to leave your apartment when you were so ill?

Waking up with a fever, yet going out.

Going to bed with a fever, followed by a sleepless night, but venturing out again the next day.

A condition so bad, you actually considered going to a hospital. After ruling that out, you went out again the same day.

I hope you're finally feeling better.
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Old Apr 10th, 2015, 10:35 PM
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<<Perhaps he would have done things a bit differently if he had been fully aware of his condition, but wouldn't we all?>>

Tom would have been "fully aware of his condition" if he had heeded all the medical advice he received, but chose to completely ignore.

And, most travel insurance certificates are quite clear and easily understood regarding all provisions.
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Old Apr 10th, 2015, 11:45 PM
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djkbooks - handing down judgment like someone out of the Old Testament...
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Old Apr 14th, 2015, 10:34 PM
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<<handing down judgment>>

No.

For me, anyone who complains, over and over again, everywhere he goes about cigarette or cigar smoke, and also no mention whatsoever of vehicle fumes,smog, which are far more problematic, and so forth, exacerbating his "condition", symptoms, etc., just could not be more of a hypocrite when he is totally mindless of going all about with a known communicable virus in a busy airport, several hundred other passengers on a plane, when he darned well knows. That he rejects all medical advice only adds to his lack of consideration.
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Old Apr 15th, 2015, 01:37 AM
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do give it a rest, djk. you have made your point of view very clear, as have many others who disagree with you.

coming back to have another go 4 days after the last post begins to smack of obsession.
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Old Apr 15th, 2015, 06:36 AM
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djkbooks and acute bronchitis have one thing in common…they're both hard to get rid of.

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Old Apr 15th, 2015, 11:03 AM
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It must be confessed that probably some of us would be amused to witness a chance encounter of maitaitom and djkbooks in a café or restaurant of Paris.

Fly on the wall stuff. But I'm sure that they would get along just fine by the 3rd glass of wine.
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Old Apr 17th, 2015, 08:07 AM
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Egads. Stop already.

This was an AWESOME trip report full of great nuggets for those of us who are repeat Paris visitors, let alone newbies.

Heck, even if MaiTaiTom made up the sickness for drama (which I do not for one moment suppose he did--but that would also be fun), this report would still be worth the read.

I salute you, MaiTaiTom. Thank you for coughing up a lung in behalf of the greater good.

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<I salute you, MaiTaiTom. Thank you for coughing up a lung in behalf of the greater good. >

ROFL
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Old Dec 29th, 2015, 12:25 PM
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Hi Tom, It's been awhile since I've been here, not sure if you remember me, but I met you a few years ago when I traveled to Pasadena for the Rose Bowl. Anyway, am now in the process of planning a May trip to France and Malta with a few days in Paris (already made a dinner res at L'Ange 20 for my last night) at the end (been to Paris many times), trying to decide between Brittany/Normandy or Provence before Malta. Enjoyed reading your report, sorry to hear you got so sick there. Hope 2016 brings you terrific health with many great adventures for you and Tracy. Best. Pam (f/n/a Owlwoman)
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Old Dec 29th, 2015, 01:20 PM
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Thanks Pam...I always get worried when this post arises

We'll be heading back to Paris and L'Ange 20 in October after a visit to Burgundy, Provence and Languedoc (hopefully).

Have a wonderful trip!

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