"Le Bus Parisien" booklet
Sep 6th, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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"Le Bus Parisien" booklet
Does anyone own the blue booklet titled:
"Le Bus Parisien: Repertoire des 80 Lignes" by L'Indispensable ?
It is the same size as the "Paris Pratique" par Arrondissement.
I'd like to know what the maps look like.
Are they the linear route as found on Ratp.fr ?
Or are they superimposed over a street map?
Is the text teensy or reasonably sized?
Those linear maps confuse me a bit, always have trouble orienting them as I look at them. I've got a booklet called "Le Petit Parisien" that has 3 maps per arr. with one being the bus line imposed over a street map. I like that quite well, but the booklet isn't pocket-sized.
Always looking for the perfect map, and I've seen a LOT of them! Thanks.
"Le Bus Parisien: Repertoire des 80 Lignes" by L'Indispensable ?
It is the same size as the "Paris Pratique" par Arrondissement.
I'd like to know what the maps look like.
Are they the linear route as found on Ratp.fr ?
Or are they superimposed over a street map?
Is the text teensy or reasonably sized?
Those linear maps confuse me a bit, always have trouble orienting them as I look at them. I've got a booklet called "Le Petit Parisien" that has 3 maps per arr. with one being the bus line imposed over a street map. I like that quite well, but the booklet isn't pocket-sized.
Always looking for the perfect map, and I've seen a LOT of them! Thanks.
Sep 6th, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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I have one paperback book of the bus lines, but don't have it in front of me. I think it may be that publisher. No, it's not the same size as any arrondisement book.
It's long and narrow.. Basically, you can make one yourself, all it really consists of is them printing the buslines maps you can get on www.ratp.fr. It looks just like them, and is probably about 3-4 inches by 7 inches in size.
If the linear maps confuse you, don't get this. I think they have one overview map in the front or somewhere, but it's not detailed and is the same thing you can also get on ratp or many arrondisement paperbacks (just a picture of all the lines in the city, but no street detail -- it's just one page). I'm not even sure if it has that or not as I have one of those in every other Paris map book I have and on the cards you can get at the station.
It's long and narrow.. Basically, you can make one yourself, all it really consists of is them printing the buslines maps you can get on www.ratp.fr. It looks just like them, and is probably about 3-4 inches by 7 inches in size.
If the linear maps confuse you, don't get this. I think they have one overview map in the front or somewhere, but it's not detailed and is the same thing you can also get on ratp or many arrondisement paperbacks (just a picture of all the lines in the city, but no street detail -- it's just one page). I'm not even sure if it has that or not as I have one of those in every other Paris map book I have and on the cards you can get at the station.
Sep 6th, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Hi, Christina ... the specs on the Massin website give the size as being 115x175mm, which is the same as the Paris Pratique booklet...
Yours must be a different publisher (I've got one of those, too, where the book is long and skinny).
thanks for your reply..!
Yours must be a different publisher (I've got one of those, too, where the book is long and skinny).
thanks for your reply..!
Sep 6th, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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<i>Bus Paris (avec rues)</i> is available free at RATP outlets:
http://www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan...eur&fm=pdf
In Adobe Reader, you can print selected portions at any zoom level desired. But the linear maps are also extremely useful - all you need in printed form are the ones around your hotel. Check the large map for the route numbers you'll need.
http://www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan...eur&fm=pdf
In Adobe Reader, you can print selected portions at any zoom level desired. But the linear maps are also extremely useful - all you need in printed form are the ones around your hotel. Check the large map for the route numbers you'll need.
Sep 6th, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Oh - and the "perfect map" isn't a map at all. It's http://nanika.net/metro on your PDA with the "Paris Bus" station set.
You enter the "from" and "to" stations, and milliseconds later your optimum route is displayed as a list of stops and timings.
You enter the "from" and "to" stations, and milliseconds later your optimum route is displayed as a list of stops and timings.
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Sep 7th, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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well, I checked the book I had at home and I was wrong about the maps. But I guessed pretty good on the size, it was about 4 x 8 inches. Mine is called "les Autobus Parisiens" and is by publisher Leconte.
I think I looked at several of these in a Paris bookstore and thought that was the best deal for the price, and the nicest presentation. When you open a page, it is about square, though, the two pages together.
So, each bus line has two pages for it (not back to back, you are looking at them both when it is open). Across the top is the linear map you see on RATP. At the bottom is a city map, though, with the line in question outlined in a dark color or red or something. That map is just to give you an idea where it goes for you to see if you might want it, I suppose. It is not detailed enough for use as it doesn't show any bus stops like the linear maps do. For me, street names aren't enough, I want the detail like on the ratp maps (bus stops and names of bus stops). It does have some major street names on it, but not small street names. The type is pretty small on that map, as you can imagine.
Then in the front is one of those grand Paris overview maps with all the bus lines on it, but without much detail at all.
I think I saw the Indispensable at the bookstore when I bought mine and preferred Leconte, but this is personal. If you just want a good idea where the line is, it could suit you. If I were you, I'd just wait until I got to Paris and go into a bookstore and look at them to choose the one I wanted. I think some of the news kiosque stands have them also, but the bookstore (like FNAC) has more choices.
I think I looked at several of these in a Paris bookstore and thought that was the best deal for the price, and the nicest presentation. When you open a page, it is about square, though, the two pages together.
So, each bus line has two pages for it (not back to back, you are looking at them both when it is open). Across the top is the linear map you see on RATP. At the bottom is a city map, though, with the line in question outlined in a dark color or red or something. That map is just to give you an idea where it goes for you to see if you might want it, I suppose. It is not detailed enough for use as it doesn't show any bus stops like the linear maps do. For me, street names aren't enough, I want the detail like on the ratp maps (bus stops and names of bus stops). It does have some major street names on it, but not small street names. The type is pretty small on that map, as you can imagine.
Then in the front is one of those grand Paris overview maps with all the bus lines on it, but without much detail at all.
I think I saw the Indispensable at the bookstore when I bought mine and preferred Leconte, but this is personal. If you just want a good idea where the line is, it could suit you. If I were you, I'd just wait until I got to Paris and go into a bookstore and look at them to choose the one I wanted. I think some of the news kiosque stands have them also, but the bookstore (like FNAC) has more choices.
Sep 7th, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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thank you for checking back, Christina... I think I have that same "autobus" book. The print is a bit small (aging eyes!)
I haven't been in a FNAC book section, just quick scans over the selections of the occasional street kiosk. I'd like to go to FNAC and browse - which location(s) have good book sections? I've been inside a FNAC on blvd St Germain to pick up some tickets - I think that's the only one I've stopped in. I usually stay by Denfert-R.
I haven't been in a FNAC book section, just quick scans over the selections of the occasional street kiosk. I'd like to go to FNAC and browse - which location(s) have good book sections? I've been inside a FNAC on blvd St Germain to pick up some tickets - I think that's the only one I've stopped in. I usually stay by Denfert-R.
Sep 7th, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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I didn't even know they had a FNAC on bd St Germain -- is that in the 5th? I thought that had closed or what just for computer stuff or something.
I usually go to the one on rue de Rennes, it has a big book selection and lots of Paris guidebooks. I also shop at the bookstore Gibert Jeune sometimes near metro St Michel, and they have a travel section. I don't really remember where I got this bus booklet, it was either FNAC or Gibert Jeune, though.
I don't think the FNAC at Bastille has that big a book selection (but I might be wrong), I only go there for tickets or CDs. I think the Rennes store may be their biggest in Paris though -- well, I do stop in the one on the Champs Elysees sometimes, that's true, but I usually stay near the rue de Rennes one so that's the one I mainly use.
I usually go to the one on rue de Rennes, it has a big book selection and lots of Paris guidebooks. I also shop at the bookstore Gibert Jeune sometimes near metro St Michel, and they have a travel section. I don't really remember where I got this bus booklet, it was either FNAC or Gibert Jeune, though.
I don't think the FNAC at Bastille has that big a book selection (but I might be wrong), I only go there for tickets or CDs. I think the Rennes store may be their biggest in Paris though -- well, I do stop in the one on the Champs Elysees sometimes, that's true, but I usually stay near the rue de Rennes one so that's the one I mainly use.
Sep 7th, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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The resources at www.ratp.fr are incredible for using the buses in Paris. To me, far superior than any of the publications available for free or not once you arrive. I was very fond of a large foldup bus map of the very same "Bus avec Rues" you can download pdf at ratp, but no longer bother with that.
Be advised that "80 Lignes" has a thick crease down the binding and the print is really tiny. And, what route?
Those linear maps are, indeed, confusing, as some are one direction, others another, and they are definitely distorted, but still useful for determining intersections where bus stops are located, especially for routes along one-way streets.
As Robespierre mentioned http://www.ratp.info/orienter/tous_plans_pdf.php then "Bus avec Rues" (overlaid on a magnificent street map) is amazing. You can zoom in, to a comfortable, when printed, visual, center where you're staying, then place (by "dragging"
where you're staying in the lower left, upper left, etc., and print (with "current view" fabulous one page maps to fold up and tuck into your pocket for going all over. Even if you've inadvertently neglected to print something or other, nearly every bus stop has the entire bus routes map, along with those individual route maps for each line utilizing that stop.
Be advised that "80 Lignes" has a thick crease down the binding and the print is really tiny. And, what route?
Those linear maps are, indeed, confusing, as some are one direction, others another, and they are definitely distorted, but still useful for determining intersections where bus stops are located, especially for routes along one-way streets.
As Robespierre mentioned http://www.ratp.info/orienter/tous_plans_pdf.php then "Bus avec Rues" (overlaid on a magnificent street map) is amazing. You can zoom in, to a comfortable, when printed, visual, center where you're staying, then place (by "dragging"
where you're staying in the lower left, upper left, etc., and print (with "current view" fabulous one page maps to fold up and tuck into your pocket for going all over. Even if you've inadvertently neglected to print something or other, nearly every bus stop has the entire bus routes map, along with those individual route maps for each line utilizing that stop.
