Italy Trip September

Apr 17th, 2015, 06:58 AM
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mels--Have to disagree with Sandra about getting a car at the Napoli airport to drive to Pompeii. I've driven in and near many major cities, and Napoli is by far the most chaotic traffic I've ever driven in. Drove from Napoli to Sorrento one evening and it seemed to take forever. The next day we took the Circumvesuviano to Pompeii from Sorrento and it was quick and easy. You'd be much better served by driving up to Sorrento from the AC and taking the Circumvesuviano to Pompeii and back to Sorrento, or taking the train from the Naples airport to Napoli Centrale and the Circumvesuviano from there. The only hassle would be your luggage.
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Apr 17th, 2015, 11:21 AM
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dwdvagamundo,

Please note that my first recommendation to mels was to take a train to Tuscany rather than drive from Naples. When mels returned to express disappointment in that plan (please read her post), I offered up a driving alternative from Naples that included interesting sights, like Pompei.

However, just for the record, driving from Naples airport to Pompei is not the same as driving from Naples to Sorrento. From Naples airport is 30 minute straight drive south on the major 8-lane highway, and one is driving away from Naples proper. Driving to Sorrento is twice the distance, much of it on secondary roads, and in the evenings is filled with commuters, etc.

The driving itinerary you are proposing for September -- driving along the Amalfi drive to Sorrento, dropping off the car, taking the commuter train to Pompei -- or going to Naples airport and then going to Naples train station to take the commuter train to Pompei -- would take them extra hours in one of the hottest parts of the year (and when the Amalfi drive is one long traffic jam). Not only would they have the hassle of their luggage they would be touring in the hottest part of the day by the time they got to Pompei.

Right now, they don't plan to have a car on the Amalfi drive -- which I think is a good idea. If for some reason they want to take a train to Pompei after leaving the Amalfi, the thing to do would be to get a taxi to Salerno and take the train from there. I absolutely do NOT recommend picking up a car in Salerno. It is a very difficult drive north for the first part of the trip. It is much easier to get the car at Naples airport if the travelers are determined to get a car after they leave the Amalfi. Again, I recommend that they pick up the car in Florence and focus on Tuscany and the lakes.
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Apr 17th, 2015, 12:20 PM
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Sandra--

My original comment was a response to Mels of 7:51 p.m. on 4/14, where she said they were thinking of taking a train to the AC and then go back to Napoli to get a car. We had a car on the AC and enjoyed it a lot, and it looks like her husband likes to drive.

The itinerary you accuse me of foisting on Mels is not what I proposed. Read my comment of 4/16 at 3:22 p.m.

I am in general agreement with you on taking the train to Tuscany, but not about driving around Naples, an experience I don't want to repeat (but would if it were my only way to see Naples). I do understand about the heat at Pompeii and the traffic on the AC. But if given the chance, I'd gladly drive the AC again.
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Apr 17th, 2015, 02:09 PM
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dwdvagamundo,

I think because of the time difference, I don't see the same time stamps as you do for posts. (I've never taken much interest in Fodor's technicalities).

But I gather we disagree on the wisdom of having a car in September along the Amalfi drive (I would not recommend it; too much traffic) and we also disagree about the difficulty/ease of driving 30 minutes from Naples airport to Pompei (I don't think it is hard).

But one thing is beyond dispute: The travelers are flying out of Milan. If they keep it in their plans to visit the Amalfi coast, they will need to get back to Milan, and they don't seem to want to fly, because they would like to see Tuscany and possibly Lago di Como. If they don't take our recommendation to do the first part of the journey from the Amalfi to Tuscany without a car, and decide to pick up a car, they cannot avoid driving in the vicinity of Naples. That is just a given.
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Apr 21st, 2015, 03:28 PM
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Thank you everyone. We are planning on Venice 2 nights , Rome 2 nights, maybe 3. Positano 3 or 4 nights. This is the second trip for my husband and we have friends that lived in Parma and told us 2 nights in Venice is enough. Same thing in Rome, 2 or 3 nights is enough.

We will Rent a car somewhere away from the AC and head North. We were told Naples was a good location to that. If there is a better location but at that point we are headed North and maybe stop for lunch on the way to Tuscany. Do not intend to go to Pompeii from Naples.

We will have a week and would like to do Tuscany, one night Florence and Lake Como 2 nights. And then to the airport to fly out of Milan. I have heard thousands of tourist travel in Italy by car and it's not a problem. We are not leaving until September and thanks for the advice.
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Apr 21st, 2015, 03:36 PM
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And I will look into taking a train and renting a car by Tuscany or Florence.
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Apr 21st, 2015, 03:55 PM
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What does anyone hear about Odyssey Tours....that get around fast by bus.
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Apr 22nd, 2015, 07:49 AM
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Dear Fodor's friend - I think you do not have so much time! Please believe me, stay longer in Florence and not in Positano! Florence has everyhting , beauty, art, atmosphere...Milan is absolutely not recommendable..ok, it is only my opinion
by the wya, I not recommend any tour in bus in Italy, expensive and only touristic.
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Apr 22nd, 2015, 08:18 AM
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mels--

My spouse and I generally travel by car in Italy (and elsewhere) so that's not the issue; the issue is the traffic in and around Naples, the somewhat monotonous nature of the autostrada and the slow nature of other roads between there and Florence. I've driven on and off the autostrada and, while the secondary roads are much more scenic, you simply don't have time for them given the length of your vacation.

Concur with spassky on both his/her points-- more time in Florence and no bus tour. From my point of view, you're spending quite a bit off time on what I would call "secondary attractions"" Positano and Como while giving very short shrift to the "main attractions": Rome, Florence and Venice. If you were to speak with my spouse, she would tell you that three months in Rome would not be long enough; that's not my view, but most of the people on this Forum would agree that Rome needs more time.

First time we went to Venice, I booked three nites (two days). My spouse questioned even going there, but didn't want to leave.

But this is your vacation and not ours. No matter where you go in Italy, you'll have a great time. And you always can--and should--go back. So Buon Viaggio!
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Apr 22nd, 2015, 08:56 AM
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Just so much to see in 15 days. I have read a lot of posts and have changed again.....Venice still only 2 nights.....Rome 2 maybe 3. Then to Tuscany by train and rent a car, 3 nights and 2 nights in Florence. Then to Lake Como and Cinque tree. For the remaining 5 nights. I may do 2 nights in Rome and add a night back to Florence. Plan on driving to Lake Como and Cinque Terre. More research. Cutting out Positano for Cinque Terre. I like outdoors walking, sea views, water, mountains..not big on museums, churches. But I will go to Rome and Florence and see the big sights. Lake Como is a must for my husband so I think it makes sense to trade Positano time for Cinque Terre. I hear from SJ you can walk to Portofino. Not sure how long we will keep the car, have more to learn about the area. Thank you.
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Apr 22nd, 2015, 10:34 AM
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SJ? Do you mean SML? (Santa Margherita Ligure) If so, you can certainly walk to Portofino in about 30 minutes, or catch a bus that takes about 10 minutes from the seafront. Portofino will probably take you about 20 minutes to see, it's very small. It's main claim to fame is the collection of high end and very expensive shops there.

On the occasion that we went, we stayed for about 45 minutes and that was enough, unless you're going to stay for an overpriced lunch.
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Apr 22nd, 2015, 11:07 AM
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Yes that is what I meant, thank you.
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