How is that itinerary ?

May 5th, 2017, 11:06 AM
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How is that itinerary ?

Hi !
We are fixed on our Spain-Portugal trip. We can still make some changes but what do you think of that plan (keep in my that we are 2 adults traveling with 2 kids of 5 and 9 years old)
- july 12: Flight From Montreal to Barcelona

- July 13 to july 18 (5 nights) : Barcelona

- July 18: rent a car and go to Girona. 4 nights with daytrips (besalu, Costa Brava)

- July 22: Road to Tarragona (1 night)

- July 23 Tarragona and sleep near Barcelona airport

- July 24: Drop car and 10:00 am flight to Porto. 3 nights (Daytrip to Guimaraes).

- July 27: get a car, go to Douro valley (N 222 go to Pinhao, sleep in Quinta santo Antonio)

- July 28: Coimbra, 2 nights, with daytrip to Conimbraga

- July 30. Coimbra to Sao Martinho do Porto with a stop in Tomar. 2 nights in Sao Martinho. We want to enjoy the beach in the late aftrenoon of our arrival, Do a daytrip to Batalha next morning, and beach again in the late afternoon.

- August 1: Drive to Lisbon with a stop in Obidos.Drop the car in Lisbon. We have 5 nights for Lisbon and want to do a daytrip to Sintra.

- August 6: fly back home (Montreal)

Any advices about all this ?
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May 6th, 2017, 08:19 AM
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Advice about what? You've described your itinerary but haven't indicated anything about what you would want comments on or on what to base any comments.
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May 6th, 2017, 09:26 AM
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Sounds like a great plan, and I especially like the idea of starting and ending with five days in wonderful and very, very different Barcelona and Lisboa.

These to videos give you an idea of the atmosphere of the two ;-)
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May 6th, 2017, 09:59 AM
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Thanks kimhe !

Dogeared: Advices about the feasibility of that plan, advices about the lenght of our stays in all places, advices abouit getting a car, generala dvices about that itinerary.....I guess i'm not the first one to ask if my planing looks good !
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May 6th, 2017, 10:38 AM
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Hi tostaky,

what most leaps out at me is that [apart from Barcelona where there is a small man-made beach] you don't have any beach time but you do have kids traveling with you. end of July/beg August is likely to be very hot in all the places you are visiting.

at the very least I would want all my hotels to have swimming pools. IME being able to have a swim at the end of a hot day is an excellent way for kids to relax and let off steam, not to mention cool off. Adults quite like it too.

Unfortunately I've never stayed in a beach resort near Barcelona but so far as I'm aware there are many beach resorts along that coast. [some are very popular with Brits which may or may not recommend them to you].
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May 6th, 2017, 02:24 PM
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annhig, sorry, but there is much more than "a small man-made beach" in Barcelona. Kilometers of beaches. Apart from the huge, fun and eclectic Barceloneta city beach there are many other great beaches to choose from in and around Barcelona:
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May 6th, 2017, 05:54 PM
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Thanks for those answers !

Maybe we are not in the norm, but beaches have low interest for the whole family. The same goes about swimming and pool.

Fow now we only have planned beach time in portugal and no accomodation with pool (we almost have only look for appartment instead of hotel).

I do take not that in the heat of the summer it could be something nice, but we dont want to plan the whole trip with beach time in mind.
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May 7th, 2017, 07:50 AM
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What you get is what OTHER people would want to do rather than advice on what YOU would want to do. That's because you have said nothing about what your interests are and on which people could then offer advice to suit YOU.

So now someone writes about beaches and pools (their preference) and only then do you write that that isn't what interests you. They wasted their time writing what they did and you wasted your time reading what they wrote.

You are right in that you are not the first to ask if your plan looks good. Nor are you the first to provide no information on which anyone could base an opinion of whether it looks good for YOU. All they can say is if it looks good for THEM. Personally, I prefer to know about what would be good for ME, not other people.
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May 7th, 2017, 12:39 PM
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Dogeared: You are right about the fact vthat giving more hints about what we like or need would help people to give more specific help.

But you are wrong about the ''time losing'' part. reading other ideas could open my mind and make me think about things that I haven't think about because of our personnal preferences.

What we like: Good authentic food, old world feeling, historical places, kids activities (free or not ), anything that can't be found here in Montreal.

What we like less: Insane crowds (we know that we are in heart of touristic time, we dont have a choice about our dates), beach (not against goeing to them but we wont do a beach trip)
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May 7th, 2017, 03:16 PM
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You will love your trip, all great destinations !!! I particularly loved Girona, walk the wall, see the Game of Throne sites if you are into that. Girona Experience does a nice tour of Costa Brava towns in a small van from there, in fact, we ended up with a private tour !
Porto is a treasure. We also liked doing a side car tour in Lisbon . I hope to spend part of next summer in the Algarve , another great part of Portugal. Have fun !
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May 7th, 2017, 03:59 PM
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Thnaks for the answer keds !

Someone on another forum warns me against going to Coimbra. He told me that this city id full of beggars, drunks and drug user. He also saif that the city itself is in pretty bad shape, filthy and smells real bad.

Anyone one have something similar to say ?
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May 8th, 2017, 02:01 AM
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Then I have some Barcelona tips:

Ca L'Estevet is one of those timeless places. Excellent local food:

La Perla in Poble Sec at the foot of Montjuic. Local atmosphere and lunch only. Have had a few never to forget visits here:

I also highly recommend Can Culleretes from 1786. The second oldest restaurant in Spain, fabulous atmospehre, affordable, no fuss service and traditional food, and very popular with locals. I must always have a meal here when in Barcelona:

And 7 Portes from 1826, tons of Barcelona history in the walls, and the best rice/arroz/paella dishes + many other tradional Catalan specialities. A bit expensive but huge portions and as Barcelona as it gets:

When it comes to old world feeling and historical places, you have of course the famous Gothic quarter. But the close by medieval and vibrant El Born is perhaps even more interesting, a cradle of Catalan identity and culture.

Narrow Carrer Montcada was the most important street in Barcelona from the 12th century, lined with the palazzos of the then rich and powerful:

The 14th century Santa Maria del Mar church is one of the finest Gothic buildings anywhere, often called the "Cathedral of the sea" after the best-selling novel about Barcelona and the construction of the church (1329-1384):

The Passeig del Born is one of the most charming places in the city:

And in the end of Passeig del Born you have the old Born market, now the Catalan Culture Centre with excavations of Barcelona anno 1714 when the city and the region lost its independence to Spain:

And next door to El Born you'll find the history museum with the well preserved ruins of the more than 2000 year old Roman Barcino. Lies underneath the Placa del Rei where queen Isabel and king Fernando received Columbus after his first journey to the Americas in 1492:

You are then also close to Plaça Sant Felip Neri with its tragic Civil War history. This is a special Place in the city, not only for the Civil War bombings, but also for the Medieval palazzo and shoemaker guild, and on this small and secluded plase is aslo the Sant Felip Neri church where Antoni Gaudí went to pray:
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May 8th, 2017, 05:35 AM
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Wow thanks a lot kimhe for all those ideas and suggestions !

I always appreciate a lot all those ideas given kindly by people take their precious time to help a perfect stranger like me !
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