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How does "stopover fare" calculation work

May 15th, 2008, 10:06 AM
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How does "stopover fare" calculation work

I was trying to find good fares from Munich this winter. Specifically I was looking for MUC-SIN-ADL-SIN-MUC between January and April. When I try to book that trip on ebookers (and basically all other booking engines) I get 1205€ for the trip without the possibility to chose flights. I always have to take the next flight available. (I do want a 5 day stopover in SIN) So I asked and mailed a few of the companies, if they could arrange this. None could.
It seems you can book a flight in advance for up to one year (or more), but when there is a stopover (twice in SIN) involved, it can only be 300 days in advance.

Anybody here with the same experience?
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May 15th, 2008, 01:49 PM
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You might get a better response by posting this question on the airlines forum of this board.
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May 15th, 2008, 02:00 PM
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As long as the last segment is before ~APR15th you should not have a problem.

I did the following on expedia.com:

$2,081.20
5:35 pm Depart Munich (MUC)
Arrive Singapore (SIN) 5:55 pm tip+1 day Wed 7-Jan
Duration: 17hr 20mn
Qantas Airways Qantas Airways Qantas Airways 3562 operated by BRITISH AIRWAYS3562 / Qantas Airways 3346 operated by BRITISH AIRWAYS3346
Connect in London (LHR)

9:00 am Depart Singapore (SIN)
Arrive Adelaide (ADL) 9:10 pm Mon 12-Jan
Duration: 10hr 10mn
Qantas Airways Qantas Airways 72 / 584
Connect in Perth (PER)

7:05 am Depart Adelaide (ADL)
Arrive Singapore (SIN) 5:25 pm Wed 1-Apr
Duration: 12hr 20mn
Qantas Airways Qantas Airways 593 / 77
Connect in Perth (PER)

11:05 pm Depart Singapore (SIN)
Arrive Munich (MUC) 10:55 am tip+1 day Mon 6-Apr
Duration: 17hr 50mn
Qantas Airways Qantas Airways 9 / Qantas Airways 3557 operated by BRITISH AIRWAYS3557
Connect in London (LHR
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May 15th, 2008, 02:06 PM
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I have found that a good travel agent can save you money and time. Call one.
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May 15th, 2008, 03:15 PM
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It looks like it's not doable on the net right now.

22 Jan 13:10 München 08:15 +1 Singapur LH790 12h05 Economy (W)
27 Jan 23:50 Singapur 09:05 +1 Adelaide LH9770 6h45 Economy (W)
1 Apr 12:55 Adelaide 17:40 Singapur LH9771 7h15 Economy (W)
3 Apr 09:10 Singapur 16:15 München LH791 13h05 Economy (W)

The max. possible to book now are 3 legs.
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May 15th, 2008, 03:20 PM
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what are you talking about?

see my example above?

very much bookable....
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May 15th, 2008, 03:25 PM
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ebookers came back with a higher fare but still very much bookable:

Flight 1 13:10 >> 08:15 12hr 5min airline logo Lufthansa 790
Thu, 22 Jan MUC >> SIN Total time: non-stop


Important message This is an overnight flight.
Flight 2 23:50 >> 09:05 6hr 45min airline logo Singapore Airlines 269
Tue, 27 Jan SIN >> ADL Total time: non-stop


Important message This is an overnight flight.
Flight 3 12:55 >> 17:40 6hr 15min airline logo Singapore Airlines 268
Wed, 1 Apr ADL >> SIN Total time: non-stop
Flight 4 09:10 >> 16:15 13hr 5min airline logo Lufthansa 791
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May 15th, 2008, 03:33 PM
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Thanks, on the international site there are indeed more than 3 legs possible and this routing shows up! Just the price is up too from 1205€ to 1390 pounds. I'll try the other national sites.
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May 15th, 2008, 04:12 PM
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Still on the german site, ebookers shows different fares, depending on the language you select. Freaky!
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May 15th, 2008, 04:20 PM
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I'm not an expert when it comes to this -- but why do you need to stopover twice in Singapore? I mean, can't you book MUC-SIN, SIN-ADL, ADL-MUC or MUC-ADL, ADL-SIN, SIN-MUC?

Or you can try an open jaw and try a low cost carrier for ADL-SIN -- is there one? Maybe Jetstar?

Obivously there's something I'm missing....

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May 15th, 2008, 05:08 PM
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I only need one stopover and I can only enter a maximum of 3 legs in the .. booking engines. And whenever I enter MUC-SIN, SIN-ADL and ADL-MUC, ADL-MUC is routed via Singapore and Frankfurt at a much higher rate.
I've tried AirAsia for low cost, but without success. Jetstar sounds interesting
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May 15th, 2008, 05:18 PM
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If you don't need a stopver during your return go to www.lufthansa.com:

Thu 22 Jan 13:10Munich 08:15 +1 Singapore LH790 12h05 Economy (W)
Tue 27 Jan 23:50Singapore 09:05 +1 Adelaide LH9770 6h45 Economy (W)
Wed 1 Apr 12:55Adelaide 17:40 Singapore LH9771 27h00 Economy (W)
Wed 1 Apr 23:05Singapore 05:25 +1 Frankfurt LH779 Economy (W)
Thu 2 Apr 06:30Frankfurt 07:25 Munich LH960 Economy (W)


1351EU all in.
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May 16th, 2008, 08:11 AM
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Sounds like AAFF has answered your question -- but what booking engine were you using? It seems like most (Orbitz, Expedia) allow for more than 3 legs. Maybe it's different for the preferred one for Germany.
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May 17th, 2008, 01:25 AM
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More than 3 legs isn't possible on most search engines they wan't you to call or mail for whatever reason. On ebookes, the US and the Irish version can do more than 3 legs. I've also tried opodo, lastminute, lturfly and anything checkfelix brings up. Seems most EU Versions can only do 3...

This is odd. Thanks however for mentioning the possibility to book on lufthansa.com, this works. Just that it's 150€ more just for the possibility to book a stopover online make me still look for a "better" (=cheaper) option. Anyway 1350 for Lufthansa/Singapore Airl. isn't too bad imho.
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