HELP!! First Europe visit Itinerary

Apr 27th, 2007, 03:12 AM
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HELP!! First Europe visit Itinerary

Hi all below is our itinerary for our 35 + day European holiday coming from Australia. After general information but also info on overnight trains listed in the itinerary please

Day 1 Thursday 9-Aug Adelaide - Penang
Day 2 Friday 10-Aug - Penang
Day 3 Saturday 11-Aug - Penang
Day 4 Sunday 12-Aug Penang - Penang
Day 5 Monday 13-Aug Penang - London
Day 6 Tuesday 14-Aug London
Day 7 Wednesday 15-Aug London
Day 8 Thursday 16-Aug London
Day 9 Friday 17-Aug London
Day 10 Saturday 18-Aug London - Paris
Day 11 Sunday 19-Aug Paris
Day 12 Monday 20-Aug Paris
Day 13 Tuesday 21-Aug Paris-Interlaken
Day 14 Wednesday 22-Aug Interlaken
Day 15 Thursday 23-Aug Interlaken
Day 16 Friday 24-Aug Interlaken - Florence
Day 17 Saturday 25-Aug Florence
Day 18 Sunday 26-Aug Florence - Rome
Day 19 Monday 27-Aug Rome
Day 20 Tuesday 28-Aug Rome
Day 21 Wednesday 29-Aug Rome
Day 22 Thursday 30-Aug Rome - Venice
Day 23 Friday 31-Aug Venice
Day 24 Saturday 1-Sep Venice - Prague
Day 25 Sunday 2-Sep Prague
Day 26 Monday 3-Sep Prague
Day 27 Tuesday 4-Sep Prague
Day 28 Wednesday 5-Sep Prague
Day 29 Thursday 6-Sep Prague - Budapest OVERNIGHT TRAIN
Day 30 Friday 7-Sep Budapest
Day 31 Saturday 8-Sep Budapest - Dubrovnik
Day 32 Sunday 9-Sep Dubrovnik
Day 33 Monday 10-Sep Dubrovnik
Day 34 Tuesday 11-Sep Dubrovnik
Day 35 Wednesday 12-Sep Dubrovnik
Day 36 Thursday 13-Sep Dubrovnik
Day 37 Friday 14-Sep Dubrovnik - London
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Apr 27th, 2007, 03:43 AM
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It is certainly a good idea to stay at each destination for a couple days and to make daytrips from there to other places.

Going into detail, here are my suggestions:

- Just two full days in Paris is not much. Add at least one more day for this wonderful city.

- When you are going to Interlaken, think about one or two breaks and strolling for an hour or two through Geneva and/or Montreux.

- From Interlaken, consider a daytrip to Bern and Zürich.

- Think about adding a day to Venice.

- You can cut one day off Prague.

- I would certainly cut two days off Dubrovnik.

Think thoroughly about using night trains. Do not expect to get much sleep. The 2nd class couchettes are incredibly tight, you don't even have space to hang your clothes (you are expected to sleep in your clothes anyway). 1st class is not much better (albeit much more expensive). And the noise! Expect noise from your fellow passengers, expect parties of passengers drinking and roaring all night, expect screeching wheels and brakes, and banging doors.

At first glance, it seems attractive to save time by using nighttrains, but do not expect to arrive well rested after such a trip.

I did it twice in my life (1st class single compartment) and would never do it again.
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Apr 27th, 2007, 05:29 AM
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Hi there thanks for the quick response!
RE Paris - We wil be staying in London after so Paris being so close we can easily visit later
Prague - Why would you cut a day off?
Dubrov -We were considering a couple of days through the islands not just staying at Dubrov. Thoughts?
Anyone caught the Euronight from Switzerland to Rome?
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Apr 27th, 2007, 05:35 AM
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Having just come back from Budpest, I can't imagine being there or only one day, as you have scheduled. Lots to see and do and walk about in.
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Apr 27th, 2007, 05:54 AM
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IF you can get sleeper cars, then I found sleeping on a train easy (it rocks you to sleep, I love sleeping on a train).
I would want more time in Budapest as well.
With day trips, 5 days in Dubrovnik is fine.
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Apr 27th, 2007, 05:54 AM
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We were thinking of going back to Buda in cooler months. see snow etc... good idea?
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Apr 27th, 2007, 06:07 AM
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All-in-all your plan is pretty good. (a LOT better than some we see that try to cover 20 cities in 30 days)

There are individual suggestions that would be useful - more time in Paris and/or Budapest etc. You might want to do some minor tweaking, but the basic bones are very good.

I haven't been to Budapest or Dubrovnik so don't can't help there.

As for Paris - if you arrive in the morning of day 10 and leave in the evening of day 13, you have almost 4 full days there. I might add one more day. It would be better then than as a day trip from London later on.

Since you will be in London again at the end of the trip, I might cut a day or two from the first London stay and add them to Paris. Normally I'd never cut London - but you have more time there later on . . . .
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Apr 27th, 2007, 06:14 AM
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thanks these are great comments!
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Apr 27th, 2007, 06:22 AM
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Hi A,

You have answers to the first time you asked this question.

You can find your other post by clicking on your name.

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Apr 27th, 2007, 06:47 PM
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Hi anyone here know anything about the Euronight train? We would want a double sleeper.... experience etc...
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Apr 28th, 2007, 05:28 AM
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instead of staying in Dubrovnik has anyone gone to Motenegro from here? How did you travel? where did you stay etc?
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Apr 28th, 2007, 07:05 AM
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to adelcouple - Going back to Budapest in cooler times to see snow; well, who knows if there will be snow?

I just think that one day in any big city is worthless, too tiring, and, what's the piont? Might as well skip it all together, go at another time, and spend more time in one of your other stops.
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Apr 28th, 2007, 07:31 AM
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hi, adelcouple,

here's a prediction - by the time you get to Prague, you won't remember what you saw where. It will all be a blur.

you have a great luxury of 35 days in europe so i ssuggest that you pick four cities you really want to see and 2 regions where you can base yourselves, and forget the rest.

Here's my idea, starting in London:

day 6 -9 - london.

day 10-14 - paris

day 14- 20 interlaken [relax, day trips, etc.

DAy 20 -23 - venice.

Day 23 -30 - tuscany [use for day trips]

Day 30-35 - rome

day 35-37 - london.

you still get to see florence etc. , if you choose the right base in tuscany.

or instead of Tuscany you could stay on one of teh lakes, and use the boats to get around, then train to rome.

or from Venice you could go to Dubrivnik and the islands.

Forget about Prague and budapest - they will be horribly hot, and you will find that you have no more desire to see another museum in your life by the time you get there.

Less is more!!!

best wishes,

regards, ann
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Apr 29th, 2007, 06:22 AM
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