Guidance on France Itinerary: Lyon to Marseilles
#1
Original Poster
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Guidance on France Itinerary: Lyon to Marseilles
Hi, I'm planning a trip in May travelling by Eurostar to Lyon and back from Marseilles. I've had a look at highlights around that route and come up with the below itinerary. Could anyone help me out with thoughts on whether I've selected the best places/ anywhere you think I've missed? I have 2 weeks and I won't have a car. I wanted to see small towns as well as the bigger cities so if anyone has suggestions that would be great.
Also, is there a stand out place to stay in the Provence region? I'd love to stay somewhere outside town for a couple of nights, e.g. a chateaux.
London – Lyon: Eurostar, spend 3 days
Lyon - Arles: Train, 2.5 hours, spend 2 days
Arles – Aix-en-Provence: Bus, 1 hr 45, spend 3 days
Aix-en-Provence – Nice: 2 trains, 45 mins then 2.5 hours, spend 3 days
Nice – Marseilles: Train, 2.5 hours, spend 2 days
Marseilles – London: Eurostar
Thanks, Kezia
Also, is there a stand out place to stay in the Provence region? I'd love to stay somewhere outside town for a couple of nights, e.g. a chateaux.
London – Lyon: Eurostar, spend 3 days
Lyon - Arles: Train, 2.5 hours, spend 2 days
Arles – Aix-en-Provence: Bus, 1 hr 45, spend 3 days
Aix-en-Provence – Nice: 2 trains, 45 mins then 2.5 hours, spend 3 days
Nice – Marseilles: Train, 2.5 hours, spend 2 days
Marseilles – London: Eurostar
Thanks, Kezia
#2

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 9,569
Likes: 0
Gems south of Lyon (up to the Mediterranean):
Vienne: Roman theatres, etc.
St-Romain en Gal: Museum of the old Roman town (in building and open air)
Orange: Roman amphitheatre
Avignon: Pope Palace, historic town centre
Pont du Gard: Roman aqueduct
Glanum/Les Antiques: Roman ruins
Les Baux de Provence: scenic (former mining) village
Tarascon: fortress
Nimes: Roman temple
Arles: Roman amphitheatre
Aigues Mortes: old fortified town
Le Grau du Roi, Camargue
Marseille
Cassis and the Calanques
etc. etc.....
People with no car often stay at Avignon because it's a good public transport hub.
Gems around Nice:
St. Raphael
Antibes
St-Tropez
Grasse
Vence
small train to Digne
Monte Carlo (Aquarium)
Gorbio and Ste-Agnese
Tenda mountain railway
Parc des Merveilles
Villa Hanbury Park
San Remo
Vienne: Roman theatres, etc.
St-Romain en Gal: Museum of the old Roman town (in building and open air)
Orange: Roman amphitheatre
Avignon: Pope Palace, historic town centre
Pont du Gard: Roman aqueduct
Glanum/Les Antiques: Roman ruins
Les Baux de Provence: scenic (former mining) village
Tarascon: fortress
Nimes: Roman temple
Arles: Roman amphitheatre
Aigues Mortes: old fortified town
Le Grau du Roi, Camargue
Marseille
Cassis and the Calanques
etc. etc.....
People with no car often stay at Avignon because it's a good public transport hub.
Gems around Nice:
St. Raphael
Antibes
St-Tropez
Grasse
Vence
small train to Digne
Monte Carlo (Aquarium)
Gorbio and Ste-Agnese
Tenda mountain railway
Parc des Merveilles
Villa Hanbury Park
San Remo
#3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 35,174
Likes: 0
Sounds like you won't have a car. Some folks will tell you you can't travel in Provence without one, but you can.
I think your itinerary is fine, basically. ALthough I don't understand your quest for a place outside a town, you can't do that if you don't have a car, you know. YOu won't have any way of getting there or around from there. If you using trains/bus you really should stay in town. There aren't a lot of chateaux in Provence to begin with. So for one to turn into a hotel would be hard to find on top of that. Of course there are some deluxe villas (mas, bastide, etc), but they will be expensive. There are a few chateaux, though, here is one near Avignon (althoguh it's really more a grand manor house)
http://www.chateaux-france.com/chateau-de-varenne
If you just want to stay outside town, there are cheaper ways to do it than staying in a chateau, there are other types of properties but don't know how you could do that. Cheaply, a B&B (chambres d'hotes) would be best. see https://www.chambresdhotesdecharme.com/
But, as I said, I don't know how you could stay there without a car.
I think your itinerary is fine, basically. ALthough I don't understand your quest for a place outside a town, you can't do that if you don't have a car, you know. YOu won't have any way of getting there or around from there. If you using trains/bus you really should stay in town. There aren't a lot of chateaux in Provence to begin with. So for one to turn into a hotel would be hard to find on top of that. Of course there are some deluxe villas (mas, bastide, etc), but they will be expensive. There are a few chateaux, though, here is one near Avignon (althoguh it's really more a grand manor house)
http://www.chateaux-france.com/chateau-de-varenne
If you just want to stay outside town, there are cheaper ways to do it than staying in a chateau, there are other types of properties but don't know how you could do that. Cheaply, a B&B (chambres d'hotes) would be best. see https://www.chambresdhotesdecharme.com/
But, as I said, I don't know how you could stay there without a car.
#4
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 16,518
Likes: 0
I think Avignon has the best public transportation options in Provence. It is not on your list, however. Arles is kinda small - so I suggest staying in Avignon instead of Arles. The TGV destination for Avignon is "Avignon TGV". It is a bit out of town, but I believe there are connection buses into Avignon Center. There are a few TGVs that arrive at "Avignon Centre" also.
There are about 10 trains daily from Avignon to l'Isle sur la Sorgue - which would be a nice town to visit, with a popular Sunday morning antique/Farmer's/Crafts market. The station is called L'Isle-Fontaine-d-V on the German train site
http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en
Like Christina stated, there are very few Chateau in Provence. We stayed in one near Aix about 20 years ago, but it is hard to get to, and is now quite expensive.
Lots of bus/train options in Nice.
Stu Dudley
There are about 10 trains daily from Avignon to l'Isle sur la Sorgue - which would be a nice town to visit, with a popular Sunday morning antique/Farmer's/Crafts market. The station is called L'Isle-Fontaine-d-V on the German train site
http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en
Like Christina stated, there are very few Chateau in Provence. We stayed in one near Aix about 20 years ago, but it is hard to get to, and is now quite expensive.
Lots of bus/train options in Nice.
Stu Dudley




