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Old Nov 3rd, 2017, 11:07 AM
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Germany's Proposed 'Anne Frank Train' Causes Outcry

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/w...ank-train.html

Seems a plan to name one of Germany's newest high-speed trains after Anne Frank was a poor idea poorly thought out!

What were they thinking? Hop the Anne Frank train to the east?
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Anne's name has also become embroiled with the notorious “fans” of the Lazio football/soccer team in Rome.

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Old Nov 3rd, 2017, 12:17 PM
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Truly bizarre, PalenQ.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2017, 12:19 PM
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When I saw story in NYTimes I thought had to be some kind of sick joke! Kind of autistic for sure.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2017, 12:33 PM
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Autistic?
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I think he meant to say "atavistic". Blame it on automatic spelling correction, Pal!
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Old Nov 3rd, 2017, 01:07 PM
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Thanks bvlenci!
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Perhaps "autistic' is not a bad choice of words here. One part of the definition is, "A person with an ASD typically has difficulty with social and communication skills."

Whoever thought up the scheme of naming the train certainly has those symptoms.
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The train started in Dachau ?
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Unbelievable. How did no one at DB not get that this might not be a good idea?
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Old Nov 4th, 2017, 05:48 AM
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The train started in Dachau ?>

No Drancy then ended in Dachau?
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The name was one of the most suggested in a competition to name new DB trains. Their aim was to honour her, and what she represents. They accept their role in the Holocaust, and have a museum in Neurenberg about their role in it.
It was well meant, but not well thought through, probably because those involved are too young to make the immediate connection.
They are reconsidering the choice, and consulting Jewish organisations about it.The Anne Frankstichting has said they will not take steps to prevent the train being named thus, but are advising DB againt it.

The train would have ended Bergen Belsen btw. Amsterdam to Bergen Belsen via Westerbork and Auschwitz/Birkenau.
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Old Nov 4th, 2017, 10:40 AM
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I'm jewish and dutch and I see no problem, frankly.

I think they should just do it, also because Anne Frank was German. Naming a train after a celebrated German-Jewish author: I'm all for it.
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<<They accept their role in the Holocaust, and have a museum in Neurenberg about their role in it.>>

No they don't.

Two words: The Reader.
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Old Nov 4th, 2017, 11:05 AM
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Care to elucidate, BigRuss? Know something we don't? Germany's "vergangenheitsbewältigung" can serve as an example to many genocidal nations that need to examine their actions in history.
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Old Nov 4th, 2017, 11:47 AM
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The train would have ended Bergen Belsen btw. Amsterdam to Bergen Belsen via Westerbork and Auschwitz/Birkenau.>

Really - you gotta be kidding - now that's autistic - hopping a train to the east to work camps.

Germans I've talked to are quite apologetic when talking about past genocides and it weren't just Jewish but gays, gypsies even slavs.
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I think some of the irony was lost in translation, PQ.

also please drop the A word as a pejorative term. Thanks.

I really wish many western colonial nations, including the US with its own genocidal past, emulated Germany in this respect.
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Old Nov 6th, 2017, 01:16 PM
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I think some of the irony was lost in translation, PQ.>

Yes I thought about that - can't be so a train of any name with those stops.

Naming a train after a celebrated German-Jewish author: I'm all for it.>

Thinking it over I still think it's rather ill-thought out - just because it is a train. Airplanes fine but trains to the east - no way Jose.
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Old Nov 7th, 2017, 07:15 AM
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I'm jewish and dutch and I see no problem, frankly.>

You may be an outlier on that? Article says Jewish groups were appalled - including folks at the Anne Frank House.
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>Amsterdam to Bergen Belsen via Westerbork and Auschwitz/Birkenau.

Oh, my.

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