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Eating in Geneva for someone staying near Cornavin station

May 30th, 2008, 06:34 PM
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Eating in Geneva for someone staying near Cornavin station

I have a room at the Warwick Geneva for 2 nights in July. Am now looking for a few restaurant recommendations. Casual with decent food at prices that will let us bring a meal in under 60 chf for 2 would be great. I'm talking salads and an entree for each - no dessert - no soft drinks. Does that exist in Geneva? Do we need to order bottled water, or can we order tap water without bringing down the wrath of the waiter? Should we be looking for somewhere that serves Swiss specialties - other than fondue, what would be native to Switzerland?

And - do we tip in Switzerland?

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May 31st, 2008, 09:52 AM
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Sorry don't know restaurants in Geneva as I've only stayed in Vevey or Montreux.

My girlfriend who lives there usually tips just a little bit, like rounding up the bill (not a 15-20% by any means!).
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May 31st, 2008, 03:16 PM
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Thanx Suze. Since i will be in the montreux area - the hotel is in La Tour-de-Peilz, the festival in montreux proper - I could use recommendations for places to eat in that area. I am concerned about the ability to actually get into a restaurant, given the huge number of people that will be descending on this part of Switzerland for the jazz festival. I know that there is a farmer's market, I think on Friday mornings in Montreux and somewhere nearby on Saturday - which would help me gather food for the weekend, but of course it won't help for the 5 days I will be there before the markets. Ideas are appreciated.
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May 31st, 2008, 05:12 PM
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Hi butnotrmpt,

Saturday's festival is in Vevey.

My favorite restaurant in the area is in Villeneuve, the town on the other side of Chillon castle (which is a wonderfully lovely little place). The restaurant is the Hotel de Paris in the Hotel de l'Aigle. It's not right on the water, but the food will make up for the lack of a view! Also, because it's not right in Montreux and is not on the touristy lakefront, it probably won't be overrun by other travellers.

Other places I've enjoyed are the lakeside cafe of the Hotel Plaza -- but that WILL be overrun, as it's right next to the Auditorium and it's right on the lake.

I also like the Italian restaurant La Rouvenaz on the main street across from the Tourist Information booth at the lake. This is a really popular place that runs out of seats really fast; it'll probably be a madhouse during the fest. Make reservations if you want to eat there.

I also like the Hostellerie de Geneve in Vevey, right on the main square in front of the lake. Another wonderful Italian/pizza place.

Finally, if you find yourself in the vineyards of the Lavaux, try the Auberge du Rivaz in the town of Rivaz -- lovely fresh specialties and a wonderful terrace overlooking the lake -- across the street.

Have fun!

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May 31st, 2008, 09:41 PM
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swandov - thanks so much - I realized that I have a printout of one of your messages from February about eating around Montreux, and another about things to do in the area.

I am really looking forward to seeing the Chillon Castle, hiking through Lavaux vineyards, walking or biking the Promenade (is there a place to rent bikes that is not in Montreux, so we might have a chance to actually get on a bike). I'd also like to do the mountain tram to Rochers de Naye and my daughter has expressed interest in going to a chocolate factory. I see there is a chocolate train excursion that also goes to Gruyeres. How do I get to each of these places - train? bus? ferry? I am confused about the Swiss rail passes. I had figured on buying our tickets for the trains to and from Montreux and Geneva, and then for any excursions we take. Is a Swiss Pass of some sort a better idea? They seem expensive, especially since my daughter might just decide to do jazz workshops every afternoon, and all that sightseeing will be passed up (by her anyway - not by me). I also read somewhere about free buses - at lest during the festival. do you know anything about that?

thanks for any additional info and insight you can provide.
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Jun 1st, 2008, 03:03 AM
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Hi again,

Yes, I'm really happy to help! I've been there about 10 times since 1995, so hopefully I can help a bit.

You can rent bikes at many train stations around Switzerland. If you want to bike through the vineyards, you can rent at either Lausanne or Vevey. You can even rent in Lausanne and return it in Vevey. For the Promenade, I don't know if there is a rental place in Villeneuve though. But you can rent the bikes in Montreux, take them on the ferry to Villeneuve, then bike back along the Promenade. The crowds should be ok until you get to about Territet.

You can get information about bike rental at:

www.rent-a-bike.ch

However, it's not in English! But you might be able to slog through it using the language tools at google.

I've never gone up to Rochers de Naye, sorry!

The Chocolate Train is a tour offered by the Montreux-Oberland Bahn (MOB). It starts in Montreux and take you to Gruyeres in first class carriages, breakfast included. In Gruyeres, you have a demonstration at the dairy, you get access to the castle, and you can stroll through the little village. Then they take you by bus to the town of Broc, where you visit the factory of the Cailler chocolate makers. You can find this at:

http://www.mob.ch/GPS/produits/choc1.asp

It's very easy to do this on your own, of course. Just take the train to Gruyeres (change usually in Montbovon) and enjoy the village on your own. Then take the bus onward to Broc for the facory. You can get all the train/bus information at the Swiss rail site,

www.rail.ch

Just use:

From Montreux
To Broc (or Gruyeres)
Date use the European format of day.month.year
Time use the 24-hour clock

Then you'll have all the connections and schedules and fares.

Every hotel in Montreux will give you the "Riviera Card" for your stay. This is what gives you free bus rides while you're there. There is one bus that runs all the way from Villeneuve to Vevey, passing Chillon, Territet, and Montreux along the way. It's slower than the trains of course, but it's a real slice of life!! You're riding along with a lot of locals out for the day, and I really like meandering in and out of smaller neighborhoods that you'd miss on the train. Here's a link to that information:

http://www.montreuxtourism.ch/index....0&IsLeftMenu=1

Yes, you can get all around the area by bus, train, or ferry. All the schedules are interlinked, so it's very convenient. The city busses come about every 10 minutes, and you can get the train schedules at the site I gave you above. The ferry schedules are at:

www.cgn.ch (look for the pdf downloads for the summer, or "ete")

And finally, someone simply has to do the math to find the right pass, if any, for your travels. You need to price out all your trips, add them up, then compare them to the various passes. Don't forget to include the Half Fare Card in your figures -- it costs 99 chf, it's valid for one month, and it gives you half off everything that moves. I've been using the HFC for my trips since about 2000.

BTW, I wouldn't really be looking for fondue in July. It's considered a wintertime dish, and the restaurants serving it in July will be pretty tourist-oriented.

Let us know if you need more info!!

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Jun 1st, 2008, 03:05 AM
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Forgot to add: For information on tours at Cailler, just go to

www.cailler.ch

to do it on your own.

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Jun 1st, 2008, 03:29 AM
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Just thought of something else (old age or not enough coffee yet -- sorry for so many add-ons!).

I've been wanting to walk from Morges to Lausanne, which signs say takes 3h. I've thought about doing it by bike. You can rent from the Morges train station, then bike along the promenade at the lake all the way to Lausanne. I don't think it would be too crowded at that part of the lake.

I'm quite jealous!

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Jun 1st, 2008, 07:55 AM
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Swandav - Thanks for all the links. You are fantastic! Would you like to come along as my tour guide?

The chocolate train link was just what I needed. I was looking for the info, but what I had found was only on the regular swiss rail sites, and it listed the 39chf add on price - not the price if you don't have a pass. It also didn't describe the trip. And yes - I know I could do it on my own, but having the day coordinated is very appealing. This trip was unexpected, and after just returning from a trip that I planned on my own and shepherded my husband through, I need a break.

Cheese fondue does not appeal to me anyway - I'm not a big melted cheese fan. If the weather is nice, i would be happy to buy my meals at the stalls along the docks and just picnic. Do you have recommendations for where I can find that scene? And are there places to eat in La Tour de Peilz?
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Jun 1st, 2008, 12:19 PM
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Hi again,

I haven't ever eaten at La Tour-de-Peilz -- yet! But you shouldn't have any trouble finding something there. There are a few hotels and cafes you can choose from.

For "street" food in Montreux, just go to the main dock. There are booths lining the promenade selling crepes, sandwiches, ice cream, etc.

Or -- you can get some picnic stuff in the grocery store. Go to the Forum behind the Casino (across from the Eden au Lac hotel), and in there you'll find a huge, 2-story Migros supermarket. You can buy prepared salads, fresh bread, wonderful creamy Swiss cheese, Swiss chocolate, Swiss yogurt . . . you get the idea. Don't forget to pick up some local wine -- it's sold in small bottles with screw-top caps. There are also lots of delicious tartes and chocolates there, or you can stop by a bakery to get some pastries. Two people can feast for about 20-30 chf.

Have fun!

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Jun 1st, 2008, 03:32 PM
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The farmers market is both Tues AM & Sat AM in Vevey, as well as Fri AM in Montreux.

I've not been during the Jazz Festival but have been in the area during other fetes, and there were lots of street food stands set up around the town for the occasion (sausages, pizza, raclette). I'd guess that's true during jazz festival as well.



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Jun 1st, 2008, 03:33 PM
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Ditto the suggestion for pre-made sandwiches offered at most of the bakeries, delish.
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Jun 1st, 2008, 06:34 PM
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richardsonsnm - 14 chf for soup, 23chf salads, 18chf hamburgers - somehow, that was not what i was looking for. Is all Geneva food priced like that? The only way it would be worth it to me to eat at a hotel restaurant like that would be if I got an outdoor table, and then I dawdled for hours over a shared salad and shared burger or pizza. I hope I have other choices.
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Jun 1st, 2008, 06:48 PM
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oooh - I like the idea of that Tuesday farmer's market. I have to see if my hotel room has a refrigerator. Do you know if I can walk from La Tour de Peilz to Vevey? On the lakeside promenade maybe? Also - does the promenade go clear from Vevey through La tour de peilz into Montreux, and if so, how long a walk is that?

I've read Swandav's description, and it sounds like there are breaks in the promenade. Can anyone steer me to a map that would show the Promenade Fleuri?

Thanks.
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Jun 2nd, 2008, 03:00 AM
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> richardsonsnm - 14 chf for soup, 23chf salads, 18chf hamburgers - somehow, that was not what i was looking for. Is all Geneva food priced like that?

Les Armures is a 5* hotel in the old town so it's not a best example to show average meal prices at this hotel.
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Jun 2nd, 2008, 03:10 AM
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Hi again,

Yes, very, very easy to walk from La Tour-de-Peilz to Vevey; it's only a few blocks! And yes, it is along the Promenade.

The tourist offices advertise that the lakeside promenade goes from Villeneuve to Vevey, but in fact it does not. There is a distance of ?? about a mile ?? where large, expensive villas are at the lake's edge and force you up to the main street.

Basically the promenade goes from Villeneuve past Chillon, past Territet, past Montreux, and past Clarens. Then you go up to the main street. You descend again at La Tour-de-Peilz and walk at the lake to Vevey. I haven't ever gone beyond Vevey though.

Here's a link to a map:

http://www.plandeville.ch/riviera-vaudoise

Click on "a pied" (on foot), and then keep zooming by clicking on the plus sign. You'll soon see the green (footpath) line moves inland just after Clarens and returns to the lake at La Tour.

It takes about an hour to walk from Villeneuve to Montreux, about 20 minutes to walk through Montreux, about 10 minutes to walk from Montreux to Clarens. Again, the walk from La Tour to Vevey is only about 10 minutes.

Good luck!

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Jun 2nd, 2008, 08:05 AM
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Swandav and Suze - you are both treasure troves of info. thanks so much. Do you think I should repost any of this topic, since we are so off topic from my original Geneva post? Or are you guys the mainstay of the Switzerland group?

And is there generally not much interest in Geneva on these boards? My postings with Geneva in the title don't draw much response.
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Jun 2nd, 2008, 08:15 AM
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Hi,

There are loads of folks familiar with Switzerland here, but generally we post on particular areas. Some favor the Berner Oberland, a few favor the Engadin, some the Ticino, and a few Lake Geneva.

Personally -- I don't like big cities, so the one night I stayed in Geneva, I didn't like it. And I didn't learn enough to post about it.

If you want to try the forums at Trip Advisor, there are some folks who live in Geneva or have lived there, and they have a lot of information. You can also use the private message feature at TA.

Have fun!

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