AV or ES train, same price

Old Sep 20th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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AV or ES train, same price

If I have a choice between Av or ES at the same price which should I choose? Thanks
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Old Sep 20th, 2007, 01:07 PM
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If your route has both and the times are same, then no difference. Same type of trainsets, same speed.

The AV trains will have at least one portion on real high-speed tracks, like Rome to Naples. If you're going on that part, or Milan-Turin, then doesn't matter.
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Old Sep 20th, 2007, 01:09 PM
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I will be going from Florence to Rome and there seems to be about 6 min. less time with AV.
Is one more comfortable than the other in 2nd class.
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Old Sep 20th, 2007, 01:14 PM
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All ES* and AV trains I see between Florence and Rome take around 1:35 - 1:37. Like I said, same train set for most (ETR500; except for a few ES* that may use the older ETR460), same speed.

Just get the one with the schedule that fits you.

Difference is that a AV train on this route will continue to Naples on the highspeed track. A ES* most likely terminates in Rome.
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Old Sep 20th, 2007, 01:18 PM
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Are you talking about the 10:10a ES* that takes 1:45 rather than 1:37? This train does not depart from Florence Santa Maria Novella, the main station, but from Florence Rifredi, which I have no idea where it is.
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I can tell you that the 13:20 ES9311 comes down from Bolzano and is likely to be on the older ETR460. Take the 13:31 one instead.
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Old Sep 20th, 2007, 01:26 PM
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Thanks Rkkwan,
I had not even noticed that the train left from a different station.
Thanks for that tip.
So looking at other options both EV and AV are same amount of time and same price. I thought that maybe since I hear the AV are newer they might be nicer????
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Old Sep 20th, 2007, 01:38 PM
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AV is a new service on the highspeed tracks. But all the existing ETR500s can run on both highspeed and lowspeed tracks, and they're all new and nice.

AVs are not new trains.
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Old Sep 20th, 2007, 01:56 PM
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Thanks Rkkwan,
I now understand.
Like you said earlier then I will get the one most convient to my timetable.
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Supposedly, the AV trains are updated to include more space and power points to appeal to business travelers. Also welcome drinks are provided in 2nd class.
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