Apartment rentals- where to keep valuables?
Jan 19th, 2014, 02:06 PM
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Good advice. It does assume that the traveller chooses to wear clothes with such pockets - and women's clothing is often devoid of secure pockets.>>
which is why we "girls" often end up carrying handbags - which is another thing that ducli berated me for.
which is why we "girls" often end up carrying handbags - which is another thing that ducli berated me for.
Jan 20th, 2014, 06:58 AM
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Oh please, it never fails to amaze me how people can take one possible example of countless possibilities and try to hang their hat on it as if it proved something.
"Not if the pocket is an exterior pocket as with wind-breakers."
So by that logic we are to assume that all tourists who do not use a money belt carry their valuables in a wind-breaker pocket? Hilarious.
"That is not how pickpockets operate, and I think that they were the main theme of this thread."
Pickpockets are ONE way of having your valuables stolen, I was referring to a robber/mugger. Do you respond to a point about a mugger with a reference to a pickpocket? And no, the main theme of this thread was how to protect valuables when renting an apartment. But I'll grant that the theme has moved on since then to how to protect valuables outside the apartment.
"only saying there is a HUGE difference, in the outcome if something is lost or stolen when you are traveling in a foreign country compared to if it happened at home."
Hmmm, really? Lets see. You get money lost/stolen in one vs. the other. What is the difference?
You get a credit card lost/stolen, what is the difference? One phone call in either case blocks the card.
You get a watch, camera, other item, lost/stolen, What is the difference? You make out a police report and claim from your insurance when you get home.
You get a passport lost/stolen (admittedly you don't carry them around at home but it is surprising how many people still manage to lose their passport at home). You report the passport as lost/stolen and apply for a new one. When travelling, it is actually FASTER to get a replacement (albiet simply a temporary 'good enough to fly home' document) than it is to get a replacement at home.
Where are all these "HUGE" differences? The answer is that they don't exist. This concept is not rocket science for a logical person to understand.
Annhig, again you have got it right. Suze is indeed attempting to flog a dead horse. She can't seem to figure out that it is dead I guess.
Peter-s, I assume nothing about any traveller. I suggest they use zipped/velcro pockets. Why would you 'assume' they do not and that includes women.
Annhig, 'girls' make a choice of whether to carry a handbag with all their valuables in it or not. I would suggest that those who do are asking for trouble whether at home or away. But it's your choice of course to ask for trouble or not.
Next time you go grocery shopping annhig, make a note of all the handbags sitting in the grocery carts with their top open and often a wallet in plain sight.
https://www.google.ca/#q=wallet+theft+in+supermarket
Then talk to me about 'girls' and their handbags.
The most common handbag thefts of course are when hung on the arm of a chair in a restaurant. Happens every day AT HOME.
"Not if the pocket is an exterior pocket as with wind-breakers."
So by that logic we are to assume that all tourists who do not use a money belt carry their valuables in a wind-breaker pocket? Hilarious.
"That is not how pickpockets operate, and I think that they were the main theme of this thread."
Pickpockets are ONE way of having your valuables stolen, I was referring to a robber/mugger. Do you respond to a point about a mugger with a reference to a pickpocket? And no, the main theme of this thread was how to protect valuables when renting an apartment. But I'll grant that the theme has moved on since then to how to protect valuables outside the apartment.
"only saying there is a HUGE difference, in the outcome if something is lost or stolen when you are traveling in a foreign country compared to if it happened at home."
Hmmm, really? Lets see. You get money lost/stolen in one vs. the other. What is the difference?
You get a credit card lost/stolen, what is the difference? One phone call in either case blocks the card.
You get a watch, camera, other item, lost/stolen, What is the difference? You make out a police report and claim from your insurance when you get home.
You get a passport lost/stolen (admittedly you don't carry them around at home but it is surprising how many people still manage to lose their passport at home). You report the passport as lost/stolen and apply for a new one. When travelling, it is actually FASTER to get a replacement (albiet simply a temporary 'good enough to fly home' document) than it is to get a replacement at home.
Where are all these "HUGE" differences? The answer is that they don't exist. This concept is not rocket science for a logical person to understand.
Annhig, again you have got it right. Suze is indeed attempting to flog a dead horse. She can't seem to figure out that it is dead I guess.
Peter-s, I assume nothing about any traveller. I suggest they use zipped/velcro pockets. Why would you 'assume' they do not and that includes women.
Annhig, 'girls' make a choice of whether to carry a handbag with all their valuables in it or not. I would suggest that those who do are asking for trouble whether at home or away. But it's your choice of course to ask for trouble or not.
Next time you go grocery shopping annhig, make a note of all the handbags sitting in the grocery carts with their top open and often a wallet in plain sight.
https://www.google.ca/#q=wallet+theft+in+supermarket
Then talk to me about 'girls' and their handbags.
The most common handbag thefts of course are when hung on the arm of a chair in a restaurant. Happens every day AT HOME.
Jan 20th, 2014, 07:14 AM
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cmeyer54--have you had an experience in which your money belt was stolen? Or a friend's?
I've never had a problem with moneybelt. Of course you have to be careful not to get into it in public--I keep one credit card and a few dollars cash in my front pocket, and if I need to get into my money belt, I'll do it in the bathroom. My theory is that if a thief does not see you have something, they won't try to steal it.
Also, unless my hotel has a safe, I carry my passport in my money belt. I would not leave it unsecured in a hotel or apartment for anything. And my spouse no longer carries a handbag (either here in ATL or on the road, having had hers snatched in Rome many years ago. She keeps her stuff in a sort of money belt strung around her neck and under her clothes. Again, one credit card in a pocket to pay for things here in the ATL.
I don't use a money belt at home on a daily basis but I do if I'm going to a concert or museum or something where there is a crowd of people.
I've never had a problem with moneybelt. Of course you have to be careful not to get into it in public--I keep one credit card and a few dollars cash in my front pocket, and if I need to get into my money belt, I'll do it in the bathroom. My theory is that if a thief does not see you have something, they won't try to steal it.
Also, unless my hotel has a safe, I carry my passport in my money belt. I would not leave it unsecured in a hotel or apartment for anything. And my spouse no longer carries a handbag (either here in ATL or on the road, having had hers snatched in Rome many years ago. She keeps her stuff in a sort of money belt strung around her neck and under her clothes. Again, one credit card in a pocket to pay for things here in the ATL.
I don't use a money belt at home on a daily basis but I do if I'm going to a concert or museum or something where there is a crowd of people.
Jan 20th, 2014, 07:42 AM
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<i><font color=#555555>"my spouse no longer carries a handbag…having had hers snatched in Rome many years ago."</font></i>
When you are a victim of a crime, as I have been, your perspective changes. It doesn't necessarily make you more paranoid (although that can happen), but it can make you more aware of what to avoid and how to avoid it.
Like any woman who appreciates fashion, I love a great handbag design. For a planned day of boutique shopping, I definitely enjoy dressing the part. I carry a fabulous bag, but I'm careful what I place in it. And on those dedicated shopping days, I wear my Meryl Streep face, as StCirq described earlier.
But if I'm out and about working (with camera equipment), I do not carry a handbag or care much about fashion (even though I always try to look tres chic even when working).
When you are a victim of a crime, as I have been, your perspective changes. It doesn't necessarily make you more paranoid (although that can happen), but it can make you more aware of what to avoid and how to avoid it.
Like any woman who appreciates fashion, I love a great handbag design. For a planned day of boutique shopping, I definitely enjoy dressing the part. I carry a fabulous bag, but I'm careful what I place in it. And on those dedicated shopping days, I wear my Meryl Streep face, as StCirq described earlier.
But if I'm out and about working (with camera equipment), I do not carry a handbag or care much about fashion (even though I always try to look tres chic even when working).
Jan 20th, 2014, 08:38 AM
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Hmmm, really? Lets see. You get money lost/stolen in one vs. the other. What is the difference?
You get a credit card lost/stolen, what is the difference? One phone call in either case blocks the card.
You get a watch, camera, other item, lost/stolen, What is the difference? You make out a police report and claim from your insurance when you get home.>>
have you ever tried to report a theft in a foreign country where you don't speak the language?
what about if you are due to move on the next day, or even fly off to somewhere different? losing your passport whilst on holiday is a far bigger deal than losing it at home. Ditto valuables, credit cards, etc. if you think that is easy, then I suggest that you are lacking in imagination as well as humour.
BTW, I have never hung my handbag on the back of a chair, at home or abroad, and I'm not a "girl".
You get a credit card lost/stolen, what is the difference? One phone call in either case blocks the card.
You get a watch, camera, other item, lost/stolen, What is the difference? You make out a police report and claim from your insurance when you get home.>>
have you ever tried to report a theft in a foreign country where you don't speak the language?
what about if you are due to move on the next day, or even fly off to somewhere different? losing your passport whilst on holiday is a far bigger deal than losing it at home. Ditto valuables, credit cards, etc. if you think that is easy, then I suggest that you are lacking in imagination as well as humour.
BTW, I have never hung my handbag on the back of a chair, at home or abroad, and I'm not a "girl".
Jan 21st, 2014, 06:51 AM
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annhig--
For some reason, our thieves either always struck on the first or the last day of our trips.
We reported the theft in Rome. The police were very nice but basically said there was nothing they could do. The only thing of value in the bag was my spouse's camera with travel fotos (more important than the camera).
I also reported the theft of a camera in Lima, Peru. That's all I've got to say, except that I'd never do it again. And I don't carry a camera anymore either.
Last theft was in 1999. Since we've started wearing money belts and leaving everything we don't need on a particular day in the hotel safe (e.g. ATM card, passports, driver's licenses if in the city, extra cash, extra credit cards), we've not had a problem.
For some reason, our thieves either always struck on the first or the last day of our trips.
We reported the theft in Rome. The police were very nice but basically said there was nothing they could do. The only thing of value in the bag was my spouse's camera with travel fotos (more important than the camera).
I also reported the theft of a camera in Lima, Peru. That's all I've got to say, except that I'd never do it again. And I don't carry a camera anymore either.
Last theft was in 1999. Since we've started wearing money belts and leaving everything we don't need on a particular day in the hotel safe (e.g. ATM card, passports, driver's licenses if in the city, extra cash, extra credit cards), we've not had a problem.
Jan 21st, 2014, 11:35 AM
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Suze wrote: "I don't know any "girls" who hang their pocketbook over the back of a chair in a public place. Because that would be plain stupid."
Of course it would be stupid. Doesn't stop some people from doing it anyway. Someone else mentioned the equally stupid habit of leaving a handbag/purse in the shoppingcart. I see both quite frequently.
Of course it would be stupid. Doesn't stop some people from doing it anyway. Someone else mentioned the equally stupid habit of leaving a handbag/purse in the shoppingcart. I see both quite frequently.
Jan 22nd, 2014, 03:36 PM
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I've never had to report a theft in any country annhig. That after 5 decades of travel all over the world including most ot the 'known' places to get things stolen in.
But I do have experience of seeing others have to report a theft. At one time I used to take my coffee in the same cafenion as the local village cops did. They're stories about stupid tourists were hilarious.
As for the 'girl' comment, you referred to yourself as 'we"girls" a few posts back. I merely repeated your terminology. I thought you were being somewhat derogatory to yourself in fact but refrained from commenting on it.
Suze, there are plenty of 'girls' who hang their handbag over the back of a restaurant or bar chair believe me. That you don't happen to know any is pretty meaningless.
Janisj, travelling with only one card is foolish. There is no need to go to a bank and get a new one. You block the one you lost and use the one that wasn't stolen. Or do you keep them all together in your moneybelt? In which case of course you lose them all and have a problem.
But that would be stupid wouldn't it suze.
But I do have experience of seeing others have to report a theft. At one time I used to take my coffee in the same cafenion as the local village cops did. They're stories about stupid tourists were hilarious.
As for the 'girl' comment, you referred to yourself as 'we"girls" a few posts back. I merely repeated your terminology. I thought you were being somewhat derogatory to yourself in fact but refrained from commenting on it.
Suze, there are plenty of 'girls' who hang their handbag over the back of a restaurant or bar chair believe me. That you don't happen to know any is pretty meaningless.
Janisj, travelling with only one card is foolish. There is no need to go to a bank and get a new one. You block the one you lost and use the one that wasn't stolen. Or do you keep them all together in your moneybelt? In which case of course you lose them all and have a problem.
But that would be stupid wouldn't it suze.
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