A Sad Requiem for France
Mar 31st, 2006, 03:00 PM
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LoveItaly - yes, Australian winemakers can and do add oak chips to their wines. Too many rely on it to give their cheaper products "character".
But who knows - the French move might be a result of their recruitment of Australian winemakers (after years of pooh-poohing New World products as "industrial wines"
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But who knows - the French move might be a result of their recruitment of Australian winemakers (after years of pooh-poohing New World products as "industrial wines"
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Mar 31st, 2006, 03:28 PM
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"It would appear that it has come to terms with the idea that a higher level of unemployment must be tolerated than was tolerated in the past, and that those lucky enough to have a job will finance it."
I don't think you can tolerate 22% unemployment for extended periods of time without eventually having significant social unrest.
I don't think you can tolerate 22% unemployment for extended periods of time without eventually having significant social unrest.
Mar 31st, 2006, 03:47 PM
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Just to weigh in, my sentimental favorite is orval. When I asked to add a day onto a vacation period a couple of years back so that I could go to France, my principal gave me permission only after making sure that he didn't approve of my choice of travel destinations. Seems the French had the good sense not to want to foment civil war in the middle east, and he didn't like it. When the U.S. Congress puts "liberty fries" on the menu in their cafeteria, we know who the chauvinists are.
And reprobate, really, there's not another nationality on the planet that even you would say those things about.
And reprobate, really, there's not another nationality on the planet that even you would say those things about.
Mar 31st, 2006, 04:04 PM
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Seems the French had the good sense not to want to foment civil war in the middle east, and he didn't like it.
Get real. The French were selling weapons to Saddem and getting kick backs from the oil for food program. They wanted badly to keep the old tyrant in power no matter how many tens of thousands of people were raped, murdered or tortured.
Get real. The French were selling weapons to Saddem and getting kick backs from the oil for food program. They wanted badly to keep the old tyrant in power no matter how many tens of thousands of people were raped, murdered or tortured.
Mar 31st, 2006, 04:09 PM
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Those rapes and murders sure didn't bother you when Bush I was calling Saddam a "stabilizing force" in the region or when we were giving him weapons. Seems like a decade or two should pass between arming a tyrant and deposing him.
Mar 31st, 2006, 04:19 PM
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You sure that isn't Haliburton you're talking about?
That is really a crazy qustion. Haliburton is a good company that has ben trashed unfairly by fring group leftists. To compare them to a mass murder is just stupid.
Yeah, we took too long to get wise to Saddem. The world should have taken him out long ago, before he started a war with Iran and used WMD against his own people. I won't mention his crazy sons raping girls at will and torturing sports teams for losing games.
That is really a crazy qustion. Haliburton is a good company that has ben trashed unfairly by fring group leftists. To compare them to a mass murder is just stupid.
Yeah, we took too long to get wise to Saddem. The world should have taken him out long ago, before he started a war with Iran and used WMD against his own people. I won't mention his crazy sons raping girls at will and torturing sports teams for losing games.
Mar 31st, 2006, 04:24 PM
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Looks like the government is on a collision course with students and unions who don't want to bargain!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060331/...ZhBHNlYwM3MjE-
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060331/...ZhBHNlYwM3MjE-
Mar 31st, 2006, 04:43 PM
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>>And reprobate, really, there's not another nationality on the planet that even you would say those things about.>>
Thats absolutely correct.
I know it must be painful for the Francophiles among us to read anything negative about their beloved paradise.
So much sticking the heads in the sand.
France is simply reaping what she has sown, and she's planted some bad seeds.
Look at the parts of the world that were part of France's colonial past or sphere of influence. From Haiti to Algeria to Ivory Coast to Lebanon to Morocco etc etc. Basket cases all.
The English, Danes, Dutch and Portugese were much better at that imperialism thing.
But there is such a lovely cafe scene there.......
Thats absolutely correct.
I know it must be painful for the Francophiles among us to read anything negative about their beloved paradise.
So much sticking the heads in the sand.
France is simply reaping what she has sown, and she's planted some bad seeds.
Look at the parts of the world that were part of France's colonial past or sphere of influence. From Haiti to Algeria to Ivory Coast to Lebanon to Morocco etc etc. Basket cases all.
The English, Danes, Dutch and Portugese were much better at that imperialism thing.
But there is such a lovely cafe scene there.......
Mar 31st, 2006, 04:53 PM
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<b>Achtung!</b>
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2. It includes characters that vex the board's link-maker.
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(degas, are you listening?)
Using tinyurl.com benefits the users of the board in two ways:
1. It compresses URLs so they don't force horizontal scrolling.
2. It includes characters that vex the board's link-maker.
http://tinyurl.com/ntxxw
(degas, are you listening?)
Mar 31st, 2006, 04:58 PM
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Those that want to dispose themselves of the benefits of a country while severely criticizing that same country should be banned from such country.
I believe it was Dante that wrote about hypocrites belonging in purgatory.
I believe it was Dante that wrote about hypocrites belonging in purgatory.
Mar 31st, 2006, 05:04 PM
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The United States financed Saddam Hussein. Period. Draw your own conclusions. It is not the first time that we spent money to affectate a goal. I am not saying that it is a bad policy, but I am saying that the United States citizens who criticize France and say that they profited through Saddam are speaking through their hats and are either ignorant of their own country's absolute monetary hypocrisy or are ignorant of the main source of oil in the middle east for some european countries. I wish those that were really, really out in the right field corner would simply read one or two european newspapers online prior to their completely misinformed rantings.
Also, again, why in the h...ll do you post on this forum if you love France?
Obviously those that continually criticize France dislike France. Ergo, get off the forum you ungrateful hypocrites.
Also, again, why in the h...ll do you post on this forum if you love France?
Obviously those that continually criticize France dislike France. Ergo, get off the forum you ungrateful hypocrites.
Mar 31st, 2006, 05:08 PM
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orval, loving or liking someone or someone doesn't mean you have to be blind to reality. I love visiting France and want to see some positve change before it becomes a second-rate country. Anger and name calling doesn't add anything of value.
Mar 31st, 2006, 05:12 PM
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Cato, I am not calling anyone names, I am labelling them realistically as hypocrites. If you are not a citizen of the country you are criticizing, it is hypocritical to continually be severely criticizing them. And I am doing that for the widespread right wing and media in the United States. To call that name calling counterminds any debate and also ignores basic political biases.
In addition, my rap simple says, "take the political stuff to another site". We need an everything else or political thread forum. This is a France forum.
In addition, my rap simple says, "take the political stuff to another site". We need an everything else or political thread forum. This is a France forum.
Mar 31st, 2006, 05:15 PM
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Cato, In addition, the thread started with the insidious title of "A Sad Requiem for France"....I do not like someone determining that France is either Sad or in any other way disadvantaged. The U.S. has mucho more problems to deal with than France. Concentrate on that perhaps.
The good thing about your and other comments about France is the intensity by which individuals follow the every footstep of this wonderful and ancient land. It makes my heart beat faster.
The good thing about your and other comments about France is the intensity by which individuals follow the every footstep of this wonderful and ancient land. It makes my heart beat faster.
Mar 31st, 2006, 05:19 PM
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How do you explain the massive tourista mania to travel in France if it is fading away?
Methinks that there is a great deal of France bashers on this site. Why on earth would those that dislike France dwell on this site continually bashing her? Obviously they are insecure individuals. Those that do not like something do not vacation there.
Methinks that there is a great deal of France bashers on this site. Why on earth would those that dislike France dwell on this site continually bashing her? Obviously they are insecure individuals. Those that do not like something do not vacation there.
