Ncl mistreats disabled

Old Aug 11th, 2018, 09:00 PM
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Ncl mistreats disabled

We were excited about going on the epic on January 12, 2019 for 11 day cruise. We requested a waterproof protector be put on the mattress since my wife has incontinence problems. We were told that we need to bring your own mattress waterproof protector. We travel a lot, have been on cruises and in many hotels, and never had a cruise line or hotel tell us they won’t be able to protect the mattress. We actually were doing it for their sake. We bring canvas and a wet phad to give the protection but sometimes they don’t work. I’ve never seen a cruise line done not understand the need to protect her mattress in case of an accident.

Then the more troublesome information was given to us that the crew would not help us get off at ports of call. In another words if there was a steep ramp which is often the case, I would have to back my wife down the ramp myself they would not assist. They only assist with and embarking and disembarking. Having been on many cruises with Celebrity, royal caribbean, and Princess I I was really surprised at NCL‘s approach to this situation. On these other cruise lines my wife was assisted all the way down the ramp to the ground. I had a travel agent call and see if this was accurate. And I also spoke with them. They confirmed that they would not assist at ports of call down the ramp to the ground or up the ramp from the ground.

In order to go on accessible shore excursions, we need to use our collapsible wheelchair. I am 73 and in good health, but based on our previous cruise experiences, I would not be able to back my wife down a steep ramp, nor pushing her up such a ramp, that means at many ports we would not be able to get off the ship and go on a shore excursion. so if you’re planning to go on an NCL cruise and have limited mobility, and your caretaker partner doesn’t have the ability to back you down the ramp or push you up the ramp, you need to reconsider and choose another cruise line that is more accommodating to the handicapped.
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We canceled the cruise and got our small deposit back. If you know anyone who is handicapped warn them about this situation.

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Old Aug 12th, 2018, 07:57 AM
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NCL = Norwegian Cruise Lines, right? Sorry about your wife's limitation.

When DH and I took our first cruise in the 1980s, if the port was too small for the ship, we had to climb down a ladder into a small boat (tender). There were several folks who simply couldn't get down the ladder so stayed aboard ship. Also, in Athens, there were folks who were unable to walk up the path to the Parthenon.

Things are certainly easier these days but I guess not all organizations can or will accommodate everyone. It behooves the traveler to find out these things beforehand. I am surprised that no one would help you with the wheelchair though.

Thanks, and good luck, rone1701
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Old Aug 12th, 2018, 10:57 AM
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We cruise often, and have not run into this problem with other cruise lines. Our travel agent did not inform us ahead of time of this problem. I have several people who are very popular on YouTube looking into this and will expose this problem so that other people with limited mobility will be aware of the situation. That’s the main reason I posted my remarks. This November we’re set up to be on royal caribbean, And I don’t expect a similar problem since we’ve been on them before and there was no problem. I think NCL policy needs to be known certain people with limited mobility in a partner that cannot handle some of the steep ramps will avoid that cruise line.
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Old Aug 13th, 2018, 03:05 AM
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Thank you for the warning...my friend did get assistance at ports with Royal Caribbean..surprised to hear that NCL isn't doing this!
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Old Sep 29th, 2018, 10:27 PM
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Thanks for posting this , I am not sure the title is accurate , however I think it is very important information and should be mentioned to save others from booking with NCL if they have some disabilities .

Depending on tides etc , some ramps are too steep for some wheelchairs to be safely used by a lone “ pusher “
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Old Sep 30th, 2018, 08:23 AM
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Could the wheelchair on a steep ramp simply be a safety or liability issue? I would really not want to be responsible for getting anyone in a wheelchair up or down some ramps, especially beside water. Also, not saying your DW is, but a very heavy person in a wheelchair could require someone with super strength to navigate. Last Spring, we traveled to PR and then took a cruise with a friend in a wheel chair. We were on RCCL. Thank goodness they did help and we had help at airports. It would have been very difficult otherwise. Good to check everything out ahead of time. I had not thought about it and was very lucky to get so much help last minute. I won't take that chance again.
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Old Oct 7th, 2018, 06:37 PM
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I am surprised some cruise lines offer assistance with wheelchairs in ports, not just at embarkation and disembarkation. From what I heard from other passengers, they do not offer ramp or stairs assistance in ports of call, for this reason people in wheelchairs have to stay on-board if there is nobody traveling with them who is physically able to help.

I also saw the crew helping people in wheelchairs in ramps and steps, don't know if they do it just because they can, or if this was a cruise line policy, which I doubt.
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Old Oct 18th, 2018, 07:36 PM
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This does not jibe with the experience of Frank who has the Youtube channel CRUISING WITH WHEELS
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Old Oct 19th, 2018, 02:50 PM
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Be happy that you GOT the information before you paid the final deposit. As to the mattress, of course they "understand"..they just require YOU to do the protecting. I'm sure others will be more than happy if you broadcast this information so they won't make the same mistake you almost made.

And I am sorry but saying they "mistreat" folks should be correctly stated as they simply do not offer services one would expect. If they did not make that clear upfront and before you decided to pay the final deposit then you have an issue I believe.

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Old Oct 27th, 2018, 02:00 PM
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I recently was on the Norwegian Jade 9 night cruise with my elderly mother. We received much help with her wheelchair from the crew, up and down the ramps in ports, at shows, etc. We were all very happy with the assistance and care from the NCL crew.
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Old Feb 19th, 2020, 10:07 AM
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Don't take NCL

I would say that after decades of cruising NCL is the least caring for the disabled. In my opinion that is due to lack of training. Shame on them. Spend your hard earned dollars on an "accommodating" cruise line.
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Old Feb 19th, 2020, 10:24 AM
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It almost sounds like you need a health professional to travel with you. I would expect to bring my own pads, cover etc. They aren't a hospital. It has probably gotten to be a huge liability issue and they just need to cover themselves. I know from taking care of my Dad it was hard to fly and go to stores and restaurants. You have to do it all yourself and not expect help from flight attendants. Sorry, but it is the way it is becoming more and more.
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