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Old Jul 18th, 2007, 07:51 AM
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I am accompanying my DH on a business trip. On our way back we are able to stop in HK for 1 full day. Any suggestions on must sees for this day.

I am planning on staying in Kowloon at Penninsula Hotel. It will be our 27th anniversary so we are splurging!
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That sounds great! It's a beautiful hotel and a wonderful location.

Your first evening, you'll want to walk on the "Avenue of the Stars" along the waterfront in Kowloon. There is a light show every night.

Visiting Victoria Peak on teh Tram is always fun, and a good activity for the first morning. WHat else to do depends on what you enjoy. Hong Kong has some beautiful parks, there are some interesting museums, and I always love wandering markets and shopping streets. Of course, you have to ride the Star Ferry at least once.
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Thanks Kathie. We actually arrive in at 10:20 pm on Friday night and we depart on Sunday afternoon at approx 4:00 pm. So basically we have 2 evenings. But one of them is a late arrival. What time is the light show?

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8pm. I watched it once, and it's pretty disappointing. If you have a harborview room, your room will have the best view.
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rkkwan, I just love walking along the waterfront there. Typically, when I'm in Hong Kong, I like both an early morning walk and a walk after dark along the water. It's such a nice area, with gloroious views of Hong Kong. So the light show is interesting, but being there, expereincing the walk along that waterfront is the thing I love.
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Kathie - If you like dogs, you may want to stroll along the new dog park on HK Island. On the waterfront from Wan Chai Pier eastward to the Causeway Bay Typhoon Shelter.
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I saw your other post on S’pore and Hong Kong. Glad you could extend a night in Hong Kong, that sounds like a better trip. If you get a harbour view room at the Penn you may not need to walk the Kowloon waterfront so much as mentioned above, as you will have The View that everyone else is flocking to the waterfront to see…get on as high a floor as you can. Great views all day and night. If you really want a good view, try one of the corner suites, the suites with harbour living rooms (over the Cultural Centre in front of the hotel) and west-facing bedrooms will have a bit more of an unobstructed view. But go as high as they have available for the best views in any event. (If you want to do something special for your anniversary to surprise the DH, arrange to have one of the hotel’s Rolls Royce’s meet you at the airport and transfer you to the hotel. Welcome to the excesses of Hong Kong….)

I live in Hong Kong and have posted a lot on it, two posts to look at are “Cicerone’s Reccos for What the Locals Do for Fun in Hong Kong (Hint: We DON’T Go to those Awful Night Markets....)” and “Cicerone’s Favourite Hong Kong Walks II: Paradise Found! From Happy Valley to Stanley in High Heels! (Almost) The Tsz Lo Lan Shan Path”. I also used to live in Singapore. For both S’pore and Hong Kong, I would get some guidebooks and do some reading so you know what would interest YOU. Also click on Destinations above and see the brief but helpful guide put together by Fodors for both cities. I am of the view that there are no “must dos”, because one person’s “must do” is another person’s big yawn (I find the Ming Tombs outside Beijing dull, dull, dull for example and I think Lucerne is boring, but I know that many people find these both fascinating). Of course something as obvious as the Peak in Hong Kong is virtually a “must do” but if it is pouring rain the whole time you are here, you are going to need to have a list of other things to do too…

What date are you here, there may be a festival going on that may be interesting to attend. I am a huge fan of the walks/hikes here, but if your trip is between now and about the end of September it may be a bit hot, and with a short trip as you have this may not interest you as much. I love the traditional market stall areas of Central and Wan Chai, I have posted a bit on this, some guidebooks also describe them. Good areas are Peel and Graham Streets in Central. Saturday morning would be a very good time for this, they will be quite busy (good people watching), you could take the ferry over in the morning from the hotel (stop at the tourist office in the ferry building and get a street map if you don’t already have one), walk around the market area, and then you will be in Soho where there are some interesting boutiques, a tiny temple tucked into the stairs at Peel and Staunton, and many good restaurants for lunch. You can wander Hollywood Road and see the very atmospheric Man Mo Temple and some of the very good antique shops here. You can also take the mid-levels escalator up for a while and nose around someplace like the mosque. You could then take the escalator down to Queens Road and take the tram, get a seat upstairs, and take in the very busy street life of Wan Chai or further to Happy Valley or Causeway Bay with the crowds out shopping on Saturday (more market areas in Wan Chai at running in the lanes parallel between Queens Road and Johnston Road on Stone Nullah Lane, Garden Lane, Cross Street and Tai Wong).

I personally love the Peak at dusk and as the lights come up over the city. You get the benefit of the day and the night view in one trip. However two trips are fine too, it’s quite nice in the early morning. Sunrise and sunset times can be found at sunrisesunset.com. We don’t have long summer days here like in most of the US, it’s dark by 7 pm latest even in summer so plan around this.

I would not spend a lot of time shopping in Hong Kong, but one place you might like is Shanghai Tang, modern Chinese design. Think hot pink silk Mao jackets. They also have nice little things for gifts that are good quality. Nice ginger room spray too. There is a small outlet in the Penn’s shopping centre and their larger main store is on Pedder Street in the Pedder Building. There is an excellent cashmere place called Pearls and Cashmere also in the Penn Building. High quality cashmere at pretty good prices. Another good place is almost next door to you at Chinese Arts and Crafts, their second floor has a huge department of souvenir-type gifts if for some reason you need more after Singapore. Fixed prices.

Since you are at the Penn and will already have had The View from your room, you might see if the Penn could get you into the China Club for dinner on Saturday. This is a private club, but it is not really that hard to get a booking for the dining room, and I believe most good hotels can do it. The club is on the top floor of the old Bank of China Building in Central and is done in 1930’s Shanghai colonial/art deco style. Very good food, there is a guy who will make noodles at your table. Nice bar with a little outdoor area for some glimpses of the Hong Kong skyline. The dining room has no views (or really even windows) at all, so if you want a dinner at a restaurant with one of the great Hong Kong views (and there are many, including Felix in the Penn) then this is not the restaurant to choose, but otherwise it is a different place with good food and atmosphere.

If you want the view from the Peak on Saturday night for a celebration dinner, then go to Pearl on the Peak up on the Peak, excellent food and that wonderful view. You want a window table for sure, call to reserve (852-2849-5123). You want a table over the tram tracks, and NOT one facing west, as there is an air conditioning unit there that IMO blocks the view a bit. They have a small outdoor area as well, not sure the views are a good as railings are a bit higher here. There are other restaurant reccos in my thread mentioned above.

For Sunday, it is worth asking if the Penn can take your bags and tickets and passports over to the train station and check you in (this is what a good hotel is all about IMO). This would save you a bit of time (and a lot of hassle IMO), as you could just hop on the Airport Express train at about 2:30 or a bit later and go right to the gate (after Immigration of course). Otherwise, you would need to leave for the airport at like 1 pm or maybe 1:30, which means you would have to be back at the hotel to collect baggage, etc before that. Not all airlines allow airport check-in for flights to the US, but it is worth asking IMO.
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Old Jul 18th, 2007, 09:17 PM
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Cicerone: Thank you so much for the wealth of information. At the Penn I booked a Grand Deluxe Kowloon View Room, so I do not have a view of the Harbor, rather the city. For the package I wanted to reserve, the harbor view rooms were suites and a little more than I wanted to spend. I am however, booking round trip transfers to the airport via Rolls Royce.

I am definately looking up your reports on Hong Kong. Walking tours are right up my alley. I enjoy just wandering, people watching, stopping for a bite to eat and soaking in the surroundings in general. As for shopping, I can do that at home. But I don't mind browsing local markets for items I don't see at home. You mentioned a wonderful ginger room spray, that is the sort of item that I like purchasing on a visit abroad.

I think a trip to the book store is in order so that I can purchase a guide book that contains maps so that I can map out the areas you mentioned and get a feel for the city. This in addition to printing out your posts.

We will be in Singapore August 12-17 and Hong Kong late August 17-19,2007. A trip planned on very short notice. I am sure the weather will be hot so we intend on packing light.

Regarding the restaurants you mentioned, China Club, Felix and Pearl sound wonderful. Do they have a dress code? Again we wish to pack light. I know my husband does not want to pack a suit as we're trying to only take a carry on size suitcase each. I'm thinking he would be dressing business casual (no jacket). So a formal restaurant would not suit our requirements.

It that standard procedure to have your hotel take your bags, tickets and passports to the train station to check you in for an international departure? I would be leary about surrendering my passport but if it is common, that is good to know. I have booked the Rolls to the airport, but I wonder if the hotel will offer to check us in and they would take us right to the gate. We are flying Cathay Pacific. Again thank you so much. You've definately given me a place to start.

In addition, do you have any posts on Singapore?
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Old Jul 18th, 2007, 09:55 PM
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The “Kowloon city view” room may not really be much of a view at all, there is a chance it will be a view of a building next door which is about 40 feet away. (I am looking across the harbour at the Penn as I write this.) You might want to consider the harbour view room, at the very least ask about an upgrade when you check in. You might also look at the Intercontinental hotel, which is just a bit further down the road, has the same views and may be a bit cheaper. (They also have Rolls.) I don’t think it is quite as luxurious, but it is a fine hotel just the same. If you really are not going to have a harbour view, then IMO you should really consider staying on the Hong Kong side, where you are gong to spend most of your time anyway. Consider the Mandarin Oriental, an excellent hotel in a superb location, or the Four Seasons, another really good hotel, very close to the market areas I mentioned above. You would not need to pay for a harbour view at those, in fact at the Four Seasons I would ask for a mountain view as I think those are rather interesting. At the Mandarin, ask for a Chater Garden view room and you will get a bit of a harbour view into the bargain. Really, IMO, there is not a whole lot of reason to stay on the Kowloon side EXCEPT the view, and if you aren’t going to have one, then stay on the Hong Kong side as there are better restaurants and shopping and where virtually all the sights are located.

It will be quite hot and quite humid here in Hong Kong in August (most days over 90 F and humidity at about 85% or a bit higher) and the chance of it being rainy are quite good. Conversely, places like restaurants and public transportation are freezing with the air con, so a light sweater is welcome. S’pore is about the same in terms of the air con issue. A folding umbrella is a must as well for both places. S’pore is not quite as hot and about as humid and has the odd thunderstorm somewhere on the island sometime during the day. There are no official public holidays during the time of your visit in Hong Kong.

The only restaurant in Hong Kong which I believe requires a jacket for men is Petrus a very good French restaurant in the Shangri-La hotel. For the three other restaurants I have mentioned, really most anything is fine, a dress shirt for your husband with or without a tie would be fine. You would want to confirm about the China Club, I don’t believe they require jackets, mostly when I go there the men I am with are wearing them because I tend to go there for occasions like birthday or wedding dinners or business lunches, but I don’t believe they have a jacket requirement for men. (As an aside, I don’t understand the carry-on bit when you are going to be here a week and to two places where they like to dress up, esp Hong Kong, but whatever. You may have a problem on the US leg of the trip with the carry-on, as with a flight that long you will want books and other amusements, and if your husband has a laptop that may be it for it for his carry-on allowance. You also won’t be allowed to have any liquids in your carry-on for any of your flights from the US or from S’pore or Hong Kong, so you won’t be able to take any large size cosmetics, toothpaste, shampoos, etc. Checking luggage is never a problem in my view. I thought your husband was on business travel in Singapore? Won’t he have a suit with him? Generally in S’pore they don’t’ have the “business casual” concept, they wear suits, but without the jacket, i.e. suit trousers, dress shirt and tie, but if his meetings are not in a formal business setting, perhaps he does not need that.)

If you end up at the Penn, the hotel can’t take you to the gate, as you have to go through Immigration and even the Penn can’t work any magic there and most likely will leave you at the entrance to Immigration (they may have someone else on the other side to again escort you to the actual gate), but being the Penn, they may be able to expedite your check in, esp as you are using their transfer service. Ask them. As you are flying Cathay, you may also be able to check-in the day before, at least in terms of getting boarding passes. Check with Cathay. You may also be able to check-in on line, check the website. Not sure this works for US flights, it works for most of their Asian flights. Check with Cathay when you arrive or call them. If you are in business class IN GENERAL, check-in lines are not bad and on a Sunday should be even shorter. However, any way you can get a boarding pass early is of course better IMO as it gives you more time in Hong Kong.

I would not be at all leary of giving someone at the Penn my passport for them to do check-in if that is possible. Just not an issue at all. They can only check you in at the train station if you are taking the train to the airport, but the Penn may be able to make other arrangements on their own with Cathay to check you in as you are using their most expensive transport mode.

I don't really have any posts on S'pore, but was going to respond with some general comments on your post. Will do so shortly.
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Old Jul 18th, 2007, 10:08 PM
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In-town check-in (ITCI) for your flights is a complimentary service provided by Airport Express at its Hong Kong and Kowloon stations. You must have a train ticket already to use that service. (And yes, non-stop flights to the US are okay too).

So, are you taking the Airport Express to the airport? Or are you taking the Rolls Royce? If you're taking the car, there's no reason to use ITCI. And if you're flying Cathay Pacific first or business class, you want to go to the airport early and use their airport lounges, best in the world.
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Sorry, with only 36 hours in Hong Kong, you do NOT want to "go to the airport early" to use a lounge!!! The two business class lounges are perfectly fine, but really nothing to write home about, and certainly no reason to go early to an airport! IMO if you are at Hong Kong airport in time to use a lounge, you have miss-timed your arrival and have arrived too eary to board. Lounges are great for spending time in when transferring flights, but I don't see any reason to go EARLY to use a lounge. Please don't leave the city of Hong Kong early to do this!!
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Thanks Cicerone! You are very knowledgable! I have to go out this morning, but wanted to reply quickly and will return later on this afternoon to read your post in detail.

I looked into the Intercontinental I am contemplating a move to that property in order to book a view room. There are 2 IC properties in HK and I am assuming the property you are suggesting with the view is on Sailsbury Road. After reading your post I believe a view room is a "must see." With that said, how long does it take to travel to the Hong Kong side?

Yes my husband will be packing shirt/ties/dress pants for his business trip. But full suits are not required. To clarify, we are checking our luggage, but we want to travel light and not overpack.

I have to dash now, but will check later for posts. In addition I am checking out the IC website for rooms. Thanks again. Your opinions are greatly appreciated!
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I have now changed my accomodation to IC with a harbor view room. In addition I was able to secure a room on the club floor which will be a nice treat. I just need to ensure that I have booked the correct location, I believe I have, but anyways it is the IC on Sailsbury Road.

I have also printed the 2 posts Cicerone suggested which will be my reading material tonight. At a glance, I believe we are all set for our trip to HK! So thank you to all who provided insight and info.

In addition, I have to work on what I will do in Singapore. Kathie provided a number of wonderful suggestions. If Cicerone is reading this message, do you have any comments to add?

I have looked at quite a number of posts you have authored and you are a very seasoned traveller with so much invaluable advise! One would think you are a travel journalist. Thank you again. I hope to hear from you again.
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Yes, the IC is on Salisbury (I always forget about the other one). They have a very nice pool deck with great views from there too. Good spa as well. They have a Nobu and a Spoon restaurant, but if you have the harbour view room, IMO you don’t need to spend ridiculous sums of money at their restaurants with so many great choices in Hong Kong anyway, and you may want a different view or no view at all for dinner anyway.

The Star Ferry ride from the pier closest to the Penn or the Intercon (the Tsim Sha Tsui pier) to Central takes about 5 minutes, but it’s a great 5 minute ride. If you want a longer ride, you can take another ferry from Central over to Hung Hom in Kowloon, this will give you a longer ride (maybe 15 minutes) and more harbour views and chances for pictures. (This ferry does not run as often as the ferry between Central and TST where a ferry leaves the pier on either side pretty much continuously all day until midnight). In Hung Hom, you can either get a taxi to your hotel (about 5 minutes costs about HK$20 or US$2.50) or just wait for a return ferry to Central.

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Thanks again Cicerone. I am going to pour over your posts for further info.

Did you have any suggestions for Singapore?
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I posted some on your Singapore thread.
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