Tanzania in February???


Jul 20th, 2005, 02:26 PM
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Can you do the same at Olduvai? I know others have had issues with not being able to book Olduvai and Mawe Ninga through ground operators such as Roys and Good Earth.
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Jul 20th, 2005, 03:19 PM
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Oldupai, Ronjo and Mawe Ninga are really the only places in the NCircuit I can think of that must be booked through the owning company (or via 3rd-party agents if you don't want to go direct).

The question is how do these compare with alternatives in each area? IMHO there are plenty of alternatives so one can design an itinerary based on personal preferences, game movements, time of year, budget and availability and THEN choose an outfitter, instead of the other way around when you select an outfitter (or credit card - wide naughty smiley here!) and then have to plan your safari based on a limited number of camps/lodges.

Anyway, that's how I'm used to doing things in east africa but I'm learning every time I visit this board!
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Jul 20th, 2005, 03:57 PM
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All I know is that I hope I hate, hate, hate Tanzania!

I am already drooling over the thought of an itinerary for September 2006 if I do not hate, hate, hate Tanzania and end up dropping Southern Africa in place of Tanzania:

(morning arrival in Dar Es Salaam)
Sand Rivers, Selous (4)
Mwagusi Camp, Ruaha (4)
Chada Camp, Katavi (4)
Zoes Camp, Mahale (3) (Chimpanzee Trekking)
Emerson & Green (1)
Matemwe Bungalows (3) (I may just learn how to dive if I go there next February)

I don't imagine there would be more than about 5% of the amount of tourists in these parks as there will be in the Serengeti during the calving season.

Ignorance is bliss...as if I didn't have enough to contend with already with all the different parts of Southern Africa that I have yet to visit!
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Jul 20th, 2005, 04:57 PM
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I'm going to piggy back on here as I have been requested to lead a group trip and Tanzania in Feb. is one itinerary I am considering to see the Migration. Please provide any feedback or suggestions.

1 night KIA Lodge
2 nights W. Kilimanjaro (curious for
info on this one but I like there
are night drives)
1 night Kirurumu Tented Lodge (Lake
Manyara area)
1 night Ngorongoro Serena
3 night Serengeti private mobile
Fly to Arusha and home or Zanzibar extension

I have not firmed up the price but it will likely be around $4,000 pp which includes me as an expert leader as well as a private driver/guide the whole way.

Thanks for your thoughts.
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Jul 20th, 2005, 05:15 PM
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You should learn to dive for Mahale, too!

Btw: They really don't like it if you call the camp "Zoes Camp". I once got a letter from them, because I had this name as additional info (in brackets) on my website...

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Jul 20th, 2005, 05:53 PM
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Perhaps they need to send that same letter to ATR, because that is where I found it. I don't even know any other name for this camp, other than Zoe's Camp.

About that diving in Mahale, there are man-eating Nile Crocodiles in that river...I may just take a pass on that diving opportunity! Or, after a couple beers I may just get enough nerve to dive in for about five minutes, just to get that major adrenalin rush before I race back to the beach!
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Jul 20th, 2005, 06:08 PM
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ATR is their re-seller, and Bwana Mitch is a private person - and this makes it a huge difference. The official name of the camp is Greystoke Mahale, subtitled The Original Mahale Camp.

It's unlikely that you will encounter crocs in Lake Tanganyika, at least not at Mahale. You will bathe in one of the cleanest waters of the world, and when you dive you will see some of the most colourful fishes on this planet. It's really paradise there. Not to mention seeing chimpanzees in the wild - this is a very special experience!

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Jul 20th, 2005, 06:22 PM
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At this rate, I will NEVER get back to Southern Africa! It's like a whole new world has opened up with East Africa.

I am supposed to go to Southern Africa with another couple in August 2006 (my sister in law and her husband) but the odds are that they will flake out. Even if they do not, I may just be inflexible and tell them what is available, and that is East Africa!

Sept 2005 - South Luangwa, Lower Zambezi, Cape Town and Sabi Sand

Feb 2006 - Lake Manyara, Ngorongoro Crater, Serengeti and Zanzibar

Sept 2006 - Selous, Ruaha, Katavi, Mahale and possibly Zanzibar

Doesn't look like I will ever make it to Botswana anytime soon! Tanzania has TOO many options and Botswana does not have enough options!

Even with twice a year visits, I think I will be hungering for more...three times a year would be awesome, but very, very unlikely! Oh well, I can live with twice a year for the time being.
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