Departure from CDG/Orly
Jul 1st, 2010, 03:39 PM
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Departure from CDG/Orly
How many hours before the flight should we be leaving from the Marais (Hotel De Ville area) to go to Orly airport for an Easyjet flight and how many hours from Paris Bercy to CDG by either shuttle or taxi? Thinking of using www.parisairportservice.com if we do decide on the shuttle.
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Jul 2nd, 2010, 09:41 AM
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Hi OOH,
Your hotel and/or the shuttle service will be able to tell you how long it takes to get to the airport.
When you should be at the airport depends on where you are going. Security for flights to the US takes longer than for other international flights (mostly).
Your hotel and/or the shuttle service will be able to tell you how long it takes to get to the airport.
When you should be at the airport depends on where you are going. Security for flights to the US takes longer than for other international flights (mostly).
Jul 3rd, 2010, 05:12 AM
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It depends where your flight is going. If it is transatlantic, for example, I plan to be at the airport 3 hours ahead of flight time. For flights within Europe, I plan two hours. I generally allow for one hour travel from central Paris. This is on the high side, but I am a cautious person and do not want to miss my flights. I do not enjoy worrying, and given I'm not getting anything done that day anyway, would just as soon be at the airport early than sleep later. Orly is closer, I might leave 45 minutes for it. Now that is if you took a cab.
I don't do shuttles, they have their own scheduling issues as when they pick you up may be a half hour before they really are on the road for the airport given they may still drive around picking up other people. But I'd definitely request pickup about the same as above, for sure. You can ask them, if you trust them--tell them your flight time and they'll suggest something.
I don't do shuttles, they have their own scheduling issues as when they pick you up may be a half hour before they really are on the road for the airport given they may still drive around picking up other people. But I'd definitely request pickup about the same as above, for sure. You can ask them, if you trust them--tell them your flight time and they'll suggest something.
Jul 4th, 2010, 05:17 PM
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Thanks, CJT0427. There is indeed a lot of info on shuttles but funnily enough I am not able to pull it up today.
Ira, good idea. I will ask the shuttle service if I choose to use the shuttle. I like your signature 'light bulb', by the way.
Christina, I think 4/3 (CDG/Orly) hours before departure time is when we need to leave based on the information you have given me (esp since my husband will worry) if we choose to use the shuttle/taxi.
TimS, we will most likely be traveling with 3 (24-25") bags and 1 carry on and may be a backpack. I have traveled alone with a carry on and a rolling computer bag on a train in Newark and people were most helpful but I am not sure how crowded the RER would be at around 8:45 am in the morning? Also, would we have to deal with a lot of steps getting into/out of the station? I would actually prefer the train. I looked up the instructions for arriving at the apartment and Saint Paul is the recommended (closer) station. Does that make any difference? What is peak time for RER?
Ira, good idea. I will ask the shuttle service if I choose to use the shuttle. I like your signature 'light bulb', by the way.
Christina, I think 4/3 (CDG/Orly) hours before departure time is when we need to leave based on the information you have given me (esp since my husband will worry) if we choose to use the shuttle/taxi.
TimS, we will most likely be traveling with 3 (24-25") bags and 1 carry on and may be a backpack. I have traveled alone with a carry on and a rolling computer bag on a train in Newark and people were most helpful but I am not sure how crowded the RER would be at around 8:45 am in the morning? Also, would we have to deal with a lot of steps getting into/out of the station? I would actually prefer the train. I looked up the instructions for arriving at the apartment and Saint Paul is the recommended (closer) station. Does that make any difference? What is peak time for RER?
Jul 5th, 2010, 06:25 AM
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That is peak time, assuming it's a work day. It will be crowded in Paris central, but not so much past Gare du Nord to the airport. There are steps, of course, in stations like that.
It isn't anything I would do at all given you aren't near an RER line, only a metro line. I'm not stingy about transportation fees like that to the airport, though, it isn't worth the modest savings to me to deal with all that hassle. If you want to worry, try doing it and see how worried you are when a metro train arrives with no empty space on it and you are dealing with all this baggage and trying to muscle your way onto a train and you don't know French (I presume).
It isn't clear where you are, you've said St Paul metro but in other places you say Hotel de Ville. Neither one is on the RER, in any case, and you are going to have to transfer at Chatelet/Les Halles to get onto RER B to get to Orly and then I am not sure what you do at the end with the Orlyval as it has changed. For Bercy area, it would probably be better as that is a nice new modern line and not as busy. I love it. But you will still have to transfer at Chatelet/Les Halles again to get on the RER to CDG.
With your baggage, I think it would be insane, but why are you taking 3 large bags like that for two people?
It isn't anything I would do at all given you aren't near an RER line, only a metro line. I'm not stingy about transportation fees like that to the airport, though, it isn't worth the modest savings to me to deal with all that hassle. If you want to worry, try doing it and see how worried you are when a metro train arrives with no empty space on it and you are dealing with all this baggage and trying to muscle your way onto a train and you don't know French (I presume).
It isn't clear where you are, you've said St Paul metro but in other places you say Hotel de Ville. Neither one is on the RER, in any case, and you are going to have to transfer at Chatelet/Les Halles to get onto RER B to get to Orly and then I am not sure what you do at the end with the Orlyval as it has changed. For Bercy area, it would probably be better as that is a nice new modern line and not as busy. I love it. But you will still have to transfer at Chatelet/Les Halles again to get on the RER to CDG.
With your baggage, I think it would be insane, but why are you taking 3 large bags like that for two people?
Jul 5th, 2010, 06:59 AM
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There are three people, not two, in Oohlala1's family group. Still, I'll join Christina in encouraging you to pack lighter: one carry-on bag plus one day pack/person.
In a previous post I mentioned the metro-RER-Orlyval to Orly. Scrap that plan. Here is a way to avoid the maze and crowds at the Chatlet metro station and the Chatelet-Les Halles RER atation. Take metro line 1 from Saint-Paul to Bastille, metro line 5 to Gare d'Austerlitz, and the RER C line to Pont de Rungis. Take the airport shuttle bus to Orly. The trip will take longer (about an hour), but it will be cheaper (€3.80 on the metro and RER to Pont de Rungis plus €2.50 for the airport shuttle bus compared to €10.25 for the metro-RER-Orlyval combination). There are no escalators at Saint-Paul but there are at Gare d'Austerlitz.
I admit I'm guessing here, but I expect that metro lines 1 and 5 will be packed while the RER C going away from Paris probably won't be nearly as crowded.
In a previous post I mentioned the metro-RER-Orlyval to Orly. Scrap that plan. Here is a way to avoid the maze and crowds at the Chatlet metro station and the Chatelet-Les Halles RER atation. Take metro line 1 from Saint-Paul to Bastille, metro line 5 to Gare d'Austerlitz, and the RER C line to Pont de Rungis. Take the airport shuttle bus to Orly. The trip will take longer (about an hour), but it will be cheaper (€3.80 on the metro and RER to Pont de Rungis plus €2.50 for the airport shuttle bus compared to €10.25 for the metro-RER-Orlyval combination). There are no escalators at Saint-Paul but there are at Gare d'Austerlitz.
I admit I'm guessing here, but I expect that metro lines 1 and 5 will be packed while the RER C going away from Paris probably won't be nearly as crowded.
Jul 5th, 2010, 07:38 AM
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TimS, Your suggestion wouldn't be much fun during rush hour, but you have certainly come up with a really economical solution.
Oohlala, if you can't cut down on size or number of bags, I would take a taxi straight to Orly, I think around 30-35 euro and allow an hour to hour and 15 to get there.
Taxi from Bercy to CDG is going to be more like 50 euro--I would allow the same amount of time. Lots of good comments on here about Inter Shuttle's reliability but I don't have any first-hand information--times 3 people it may not be much less than a taxi.
Oohlala, if you can't cut down on size or number of bags, I would take a taxi straight to Orly, I think around 30-35 euro and allow an hour to hour and 15 to get there.
Taxi from Bercy to CDG is going to be more like 50 euro--I would allow the same amount of time. Lots of good comments on here about Inter Shuttle's reliability but I don't have any first-hand information--times 3 people it may not be much less than a taxi.
Jul 5th, 2010, 08:20 PM
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Christina, je peut parler un petit peu mais je ne sais pas si je comprendrai quand les peuples parlent avec moi en Francais.
Its been a long time and my written French was always better than my conversational French.
In response to everyone's questions/comments:
The apartment we are renting is kind of in between Hotel de Ville and Saint-Paul but closer to SP.
TImS is right, there is 3 in our family, my husband, 15 year old and moi.
There will be 3 big bags. I usually take a 5 day supply of clothes. We will carry only 2 bags and 1 carry on and back pack to Italy. We are leaving one bag behind in Paris. We have always taken 2 big bags plus carry ons (even to Japan and gone by train to/from Tokyo airport to Nishi-Funabashi, a town about 45 minutes away from Tokyo and changed trains and gone up and down steps too). I also plan to buy a small electric kettle to make my early morning tea during our travels in Italy when we are staying in hotel rooms so I need a little room in our bags. I was thinking BHV would have it.
Our flight reaches CDG at 7:45 am. I think it might be ok to take a shuttle from CDG to Paris since we don't have a plane to catch.
Our flight from Orly to Naples leaves at 7:15 am. Are the trains running at 4:15 am in the morning? If they are, we could give the alternative that TimS has suggested a try. If not, I think it is going to have to be a taxi especially since it is around 30 Euros (per Cathinjoetown).
From Paris Bercy to CDG, if the Bercy line is not so busy and we have to only deal with getting into the RER at Chatelet/Les Halles, I think we can do that. Especially if the RER is not crowded? Otherwise, it might be better to catch a taxi since we will be leaving around 6:45 am and there is a plane to catch. I am more worried about inconveniencing others in the train compartment (and may be to a small extent actually getting into the trains) than anything else. Also, I am not sure if people are generally helpful if they see tourists with big bags trying to get into crowded trains.
Overall, we found the Japanese people to be extremely helpful. Those that could not give directions in English sometimes even came with us to show us the way to a museum etc.
Its been a long time and my written French was always better than my conversational French.
In response to everyone's questions/comments:
The apartment we are renting is kind of in between Hotel de Ville and Saint-Paul but closer to SP.
TImS is right, there is 3 in our family, my husband, 15 year old and moi.
There will be 3 big bags. I usually take a 5 day supply of clothes. We will carry only 2 bags and 1 carry on and back pack to Italy. We are leaving one bag behind in Paris. We have always taken 2 big bags plus carry ons (even to Japan and gone by train to/from Tokyo airport to Nishi-Funabashi, a town about 45 minutes away from Tokyo and changed trains and gone up and down steps too). I also plan to buy a small electric kettle to make my early morning tea during our travels in Italy when we are staying in hotel rooms so I need a little room in our bags. I was thinking BHV would have it.
Our flight reaches CDG at 7:45 am. I think it might be ok to take a shuttle from CDG to Paris since we don't have a plane to catch.
Our flight from Orly to Naples leaves at 7:15 am. Are the trains running at 4:15 am in the morning? If they are, we could give the alternative that TimS has suggested a try. If not, I think it is going to have to be a taxi especially since it is around 30 Euros (per Cathinjoetown).
From Paris Bercy to CDG, if the Bercy line is not so busy and we have to only deal with getting into the RER at Chatelet/Les Halles, I think we can do that. Especially if the RER is not crowded? Otherwise, it might be better to catch a taxi since we will be leaving around 6:45 am and there is a plane to catch. I am more worried about inconveniencing others in the train compartment (and may be to a small extent actually getting into the trains) than anything else. Also, I am not sure if people are generally helpful if they see tourists with big bags trying to get into crowded trains.
Overall, we found the Japanese people to be extremely helpful. Those that could not give directions in English sometimes even came with us to show us the way to a museum etc.
Jul 5th, 2010, 08:38 PM
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I want to thank you all. Because of your comments, I am slowly able to figure out how to read this map.
TimS, which is line 5 on this map? Thanks.
http://www.ratp.info/orienter/cv/carteidf.php?lang=uk
TimS, which is line 5 on this map? Thanks.
http://www.ratp.info/orienter/cv/carteidf.php?lang=uk
Jul 6th, 2010, 05:47 AM
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The metro and RER do not start running early enough in the morning for you to get to Orly in time to catch your easyJet flight. A taxi is probably your best option. You won't have to worry about a shuttle being late to pick you up.
Metro line 5 is the orange line that goes straight south from Bastille across the Seine to Gare d'Austerlitz. For a zoomable PDF map of the metro and RER system go here: http://tinyurl.com/6ypurt.
Metro line 5 is the orange line that goes straight south from Bastille across the Seine to Gare d'Austerlitz. For a zoomable PDF map of the metro and RER system go here: http://tinyurl.com/6ypurt.
