I live in "upstate" and it drives me crazy when people think two hours north of NYC is upstate. It's like central NY, which calls itself that, is actually more northern than what many odd folks refer to as upstate. True upstate, to me, is anywhere within a 60 mile drive to the border of Canada.

Uh, OK.

We all have our crosses to bear.

Yo anything north of the GWB is Upstate

Anything north of Bloomingdale's is upstate to me.

dear 5 minutes: Hang in there - you're in my thoughts & prayers.

That's funny, I generally find that people from the OP's part of the state refer to that area as the "North Country." To think that someone would consider a place like Saratoga to be "downstate" seems a little odd.

This question has been discussed many times before on this site and consensus has been that "upstate" starts somewhere north of Westchester and Rockland Counties in the Hudson Valley.

You mean upstate doesn't begin with Westchester?

If you are in NYC, then north of there would be Up, NO?
And don't let this drive you crazy, there are soooo many things going on in this world that are worthy of going crazy.
and this is really not one of them.

Al:

There is no way that cities like Yonkers could possibly be considered "upstate."

BuffaloBill

Westchester is upstate. And so is everything North of it. Now lets talk about Long Island - Brooklyn and Queens are actually located on Long Island but are not considered Long Island.

What a question, if 5mins doesn't know where upstate NY begins, who really cares and I love upstate NY.

Y'all're a bunch of damn Yankees irregardless.

I always thought of upstate to start around Orange County or around the Harriman toll booth. If you live below the Harriman toll, you can commute to Manhattan and while you can if you live above Harriman its still a long commute but you live upstate

The part of the Bronx River Parkway where the tall buildings disappear and the trees and mountains take over.

Besides 5min
Does anyone really care???????????????

This is such a wonderful and compelling topic.

I think its starts in the Catskills.

Albany NY

probably around Binghamton

Ulster County for sure