San Francisco-Monterey Bay-Hearst Castle-Sequoia Forest-Yosemite Park combo
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San Francisco-Monterey Bay-Hearst Castle-Sequoia Forest-Yosemite Park combo
Planning to visit California with 16yo son in August. We have total of up to 8 days and want to see SF, Monterrey, Carmel, Hearst Castle, Sequoia Forest, Kings Canyon and Yosemite Park. Will fly from NY JFK.
Is it possible to pull up such itinerary in 8days including flight time and be able to enjoy it and not be constantly driving? How many days would you allocate for each place? Is there any other airport but SFO that we can depart from back to JFK non-stop and is closer to parks, or we must get back to SF?
Where to make stops on the way? Recommendations for lodging would also be appreciated!
Is it better to stay in Monterey or Paso Robles? We plan to see Carmel, 17 miles drive, Point Lobos, Monterey Aquarium, may be Nepenthe... What would be the best balance between having time to enjoy and driving to the next spot? Any shortcuts that we should be aware of taking advantage to be more efficient?
If anyone has an itinerary please share.
Thank you in advance for your feedback!
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Is it possible to pull up such itinerary in 8days including flight time and be able to enjoy it and not be constantly driving? How many days would you allocate for each place? Is there any other airport but SFO that we can depart from back to JFK non-stop and is closer to parks, or we must get back to SF?
Where to make stops on the way? Recommendations for lodging would also be appreciated!
Is it better to stay in Monterey or Paso Robles? We plan to see Carmel, 17 miles drive, Point Lobos, Monterey Aquarium, may be Nepenthe... What would be the best balance between having time to enjoy and driving to the next spot? Any shortcuts that we should be aware of taking advantage to be more efficient?
If anyone has an itinerary please share.
Thank you in advance for your feedback!
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>>Is it possible to pull up such itinerary in 8days including flight time>Is there any other airport but SFO that we can depart from back to JFK non-stop and is closer to parks, or we must get back to SF?
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How many days would you allocate for each place?
(fly into SFO or Oakland)
SF = 2/4 days
(drive ~ 4 hours) Yosemite Park = 2/3 days
(drive ~4 hours) Monterrey, Carmel, Hearst Castle = 2/3 days
(drive ~3 hours) Sequoia Forest, Kings Canyon = 3/4 days
(oops still need to get back to an international airport somewhere... back to SFO 5 hrs, San Jose is 4 hrs, LAX is 5 hrs, or?)
Is it possible to pull up such itinerary in 8 days including flight time and be able to enjoy it and not be constantly driving?
No
Well perhaps it is technically "possible" but to me what you describe is a more like a 2 week road trip.
(fly into SFO or Oakland)
SF = 2/4 days
(drive ~ 4 hours) Yosemite Park = 2/3 days
(drive ~4 hours) Monterrey, Carmel, Hearst Castle = 2/3 days
(drive ~3 hours) Sequoia Forest, Kings Canyon = 3/4 days
(oops still need to get back to an international airport somewhere... back to SFO 5 hrs, San Jose is 4 hrs, LAX is 5 hrs, or?)
Is it possible to pull up such itinerary in 8 days including flight time and be able to enjoy it and not be constantly driving?
No

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I would drop Sequoia/Kings Canyon and build the trip around what ever dates you can get for Yosemite lodging. There are sequoia groves in Yosemite too.
SF or Oakland would work for airports as would San Jose.
SF probably 3 nights (arrival day, 2 days sightseeing, departure to Monterey Bay then
3 nights (1 or 2 Pacific Grove and 1 night San Simeon/Morro Bay.
Paso Robles will be very hot in August. I'd include a visit to Monatana de Oro while down in the Hearst Castle area.
3 nights Yosemite. One arrival day, two sightseeing days, then drive back to departure airport
1 night near your departure airport.
SF or Oakland would work for airports as would San Jose.
SF probably 3 nights (arrival day, 2 days sightseeing, departure to Monterey Bay then
3 nights (1 or 2 Pacific Grove and 1 night San Simeon/Morro Bay.
Paso Robles will be very hot in August. I'd include a visit to Monatana de Oro while down in the Hearst Castle area.
3 nights Yosemite. One arrival day, two sightseeing days, then drive back to departure airport
1 night near your departure airport.
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Thank you everyone! So we’ll probably have to narrow it down to SF, Yosemite park, Monterey Bay/Carmel? Does not seem like we’ll have time to make it to Hearst Castle, right. With 3nights at Yosemite park how would you recommend to distribute the rest of the days and what is the best order of moving through this itinerary if it matters?
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ps: I see you are brand new. Welcome to Fodors.
Unfortunately that means you can't post again until tomorrow -- you are sort of 'on probabtion' the first few days on Fodors. So get on the Yosemite booking tonight and then tomorrow you can post some of the details . . .

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There was an feature in the SF Chronicle this past Sunday about transportation in Yosemite. Hours, waiting in line to catch the shuttle.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/science/...php?psid=8B2Rz
For a VERY short trip - I would not want to spend any time in lines. I love Yosemite - but I would not want to spend 1/2 of a day waiting in lines for on a shuttle.
Focus on San Francisco, Monterey, Carmel, and Big Sur.
Here is some stuff to study
https://www.fodors.com/community/uni...ations-356478/
Stu Dudley
https://www.sfchronicle.com/science/...php?psid=8B2Rz
For a VERY short trip - I would not want to spend any time in lines. I love Yosemite - but I would not want to spend 1/2 of a day waiting in lines for on a shuttle.
Focus on San Francisco, Monterey, Carmel, and Big Sur.
Here is some stuff to study
https://www.fodors.com/community/uni...ations-356478/
Stu Dudley
Last edited by StuDudley; Jun 3rd, 2019 at 08:45 PM.
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Just now coming to this thread but I'd have to echo several previous posts.
1. Postpone Yosemite until you can make it at some other time of the year, preferably spring to (very) early summer. By August the crowds and heat will be bad, getting around complicated, and the transits of the Central Valley, coming and going, will be miserable. Plus some of the waterfalls will be running out of water because the snow in the Sierras will have melted.
2. Be careful of the Monterey peninsula if you're anywhere near car week. https://www.seemonterey.com/events/sporting/concours/ Accommodations all the way from Santa Cruz to Salinas and beyond get filled up, prices go way up, and traffic gets awful.
3. If you can't avoid that week, then try to find accommodations closer to Santa Cruz and if you want to see Point Lobos or Monterey/Carmel, do it as a day trip. When the time comes to head south, shoot straight past Monterey to Big Sur, and spend a night close to San Simeon (Hearst Castle, Piedras Blancas elephant seals.) Be sure to visit either/both the Henry Cowell or Big Basin redwoods; both state parks are between San Jose and Santa Cruz.
If your timing is such that you're hitting car week, then I'd suggest a possible alternative scheme. From SF, head south all the way to Santa Barbara. This is an all-day drive, but shouldn't be too trafficky once you're past the SF Bay Area. It will probably be hot as Hades between Salinas and, say, Pismo Beach, but if you're easterners, nothing you can't manage. Anyway, spend a day or two enjoying Santa Barbara and its hinterland; see the beautiful old Spanish mission, explore the lovely town center, visit some wineries in the "Sideways" country... Then head back north, this time on CA 1. Visit the targets you've already listed - Hearst Castle, Big Sur, etc. - and back to SF.
If the timing works with the opposite plan, so be it. Work south on the coast, then high speed on US 101 back to SF.
1. Postpone Yosemite until you can make it at some other time of the year, preferably spring to (very) early summer. By August the crowds and heat will be bad, getting around complicated, and the transits of the Central Valley, coming and going, will be miserable. Plus some of the waterfalls will be running out of water because the snow in the Sierras will have melted.
2. Be careful of the Monterey peninsula if you're anywhere near car week. https://www.seemonterey.com/events/sporting/concours/ Accommodations all the way from Santa Cruz to Salinas and beyond get filled up, prices go way up, and traffic gets awful.
3. If you can't avoid that week, then try to find accommodations closer to Santa Cruz and if you want to see Point Lobos or Monterey/Carmel, do it as a day trip. When the time comes to head south, shoot straight past Monterey to Big Sur, and spend a night close to San Simeon (Hearst Castle, Piedras Blancas elephant seals.) Be sure to visit either/both the Henry Cowell or Big Basin redwoods; both state parks are between San Jose and Santa Cruz.
If your timing is such that you're hitting car week, then I'd suggest a possible alternative scheme. From SF, head south all the way to Santa Barbara. This is an all-day drive, but shouldn't be too trafficky once you're past the SF Bay Area. It will probably be hot as Hades between Salinas and, say, Pismo Beach, but if you're easterners, nothing you can't manage. Anyway, spend a day or two enjoying Santa Barbara and its hinterland; see the beautiful old Spanish mission, explore the lovely town center, visit some wineries in the "Sideways" country... Then head back north, this time on CA 1. Visit the targets you've already listed - Hearst Castle, Big Sur, etc. - and back to SF.
If the timing works with the opposite plan, so be it. Work south on the coast, then high speed on US 101 back to SF.
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I think I wrote a report last year about July hell in Yosemite. I swore off going in summer ever again. If it's a priority, IMO the best way to deal with parking is to stay at Camp Curry (now called Half Dome Village) where you leave your car for the duration and walk to Vernal Falls. Mirror Lake and the main Yosemite Falls are often dry by August, but who knows with the big snowpack this year.
Report on Yosemite/Traffic Conditions
My recommendation is to not bother with Santa Barbara, which I find extremely boring (and with super expensive hotels!). If you do a trip south I like Cambria, Cayucos, Morro Bay/Grover Beach (general Pismo Beach area although I don't like staying in Pismo), and San Luis Obispo. If you want to drop Yosemite and see big trees somewhere, in addition to the well-known groves in the National Parks, there is also Trail of 100 Giants north of Kernville. You would go inland from SLO and can go up the east side of the Sierra Nevada on 395, then continue up via Bishop/Mammoth Lakes/Mono, and Tioga Pass to reach Yosemite from the back side. I'd still want to find at least one night inside the Park if you do that, but get a really early start when you head up from Tioga Pass. Also, people from Southern California sometimes visit Yosemite via Oakhurst, even staying there if they can't get lodging closer in. Oakhurst is relatively close to Mariposa Grove. So you could also not go into the Valley at all, but do Mariposa Grove and Glacier Point.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sequ...a/?recid=79825
Report on Yosemite/Traffic Conditions
My recommendation is to not bother with Santa Barbara, which I find extremely boring (and with super expensive hotels!). If you do a trip south I like Cambria, Cayucos, Morro Bay/Grover Beach (general Pismo Beach area although I don't like staying in Pismo), and San Luis Obispo. If you want to drop Yosemite and see big trees somewhere, in addition to the well-known groves in the National Parks, there is also Trail of 100 Giants north of Kernville. You would go inland from SLO and can go up the east side of the Sierra Nevada on 395, then continue up via Bishop/Mammoth Lakes/Mono, and Tioga Pass to reach Yosemite from the back side. I'd still want to find at least one night inside the Park if you do that, but get a really early start when you head up from Tioga Pass. Also, people from Southern California sometimes visit Yosemite via Oakhurst, even staying there if they can't get lodging closer in. Oakhurst is relatively close to Mariposa Grove. So you could also not go into the Valley at all, but do Mariposa Grove and Glacier Point.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sequ...a/?recid=79825
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After much consideration and hesitation (lodging issues in the park, crowds, auto-show, heat, lines and so on...) we decided to postpone such trip in Aug and rather plan for it a bit more in advance-for the spring. Thank you for your valuable advice, it won’t be wasted! But now we are looking into other nature-oriented interesting and beautiful 8days travel options for the beginning of Aug, that won’t require planning that much in advance. We are traveling with a teenager, so are trying to think of a balanced and diverse exposure to keep him interested. Any ideas are welcomed!
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After much consideration and hesitation (lodging issues in the park, crowds, auto-show, heat, lines and so on...) we decided to postpone such trip in Aug and rather plan for it a bit more in advance-for the spring. Thank you for your valuable advice, it won’t be wasted! But now we are looking into other nature-oriented interesting and beautiful 8days travel options for the beginning of Aug, that won’t require planning that much in advance. We are traveling with a teenager, so are trying to think of a balanced and diverse exposure to keep him interested. Any ideas are welcomed!
I'll throw out one idea, just as an example. Fly to Vancouver BC and spend a week or so in that region. The city itself is one of the world's great travel destinations, with fantastic activities in the city including glorious parks, beaches, public markets, and amazing and diverse food scene, even a terrific Shakespeare festival (performances in tents with the city skyline behind.)
A couple of hours north of the city (via one of North America's most scenic highways) is Whistler, the big ski resort and home of the 2010 Winter Olympics. However, in the summer it changes its identity to a fabulous outdoors destination, with hiking, water sports, sightseeing and so many other activities it's crazy. And because it's been developed as a winter resort, the supply of accommodation in all categories, but especially in self-catering resources (condos, apartments etc.) is very wide and large, and prices are quite reasonable. The pedestrian-friendly Whistler Village is full of fun cafes and galleries, and with the strength of the US dollar v. the Loonie, prices are very fair.
On the way from Vancouver to Whistler, you'll go past the Horseshoe Bay terminal for BC Ferries. From there you can take a ferry over to Vancouver Island, with the lovely (but crowded) capital of BC, Victoria, or you can take a different ferry to Langdale, on BC's little-known (outside of BC) "Sunshine Coast." The Sunshine Coast is a string of charming little towns set in superb setting, extending north around 150 km (say 80 miles) across mainland and islands.
South of Vancouver is another ferry terminal, with more direct access to Victoria, and also to the Gulf Islands, an incredibly picturesque group of islands full of farms, beaches, hiking opportunities... There are opportunities for fishing or whale watching (currently facing restrictions due to concerns about the impact on the orcas) or kayaking.
Here's a map showing the location (not necessarily a suggested route) of these places. https://goo.gl/maps/dPpVCrYcDW1U34b36 . In essence, this is an area that rivals the Monterey Bay in terms of great variety at close range, but absent the crowds that you'd experience in Yosemite or during Car Week farther south. Mind you, there will be plenty of other tourists, but the resources are more than capable to handle the demand.
Pictures (not all of them are mine) -
Vancouver from Spanish Banks beach

Granville Island market

Bard on the Beach Shakespeare festival

Whistler Village

Ferry to Sunshine Coast

Typical coastal scene, Sunshine Coast

Southern Gulf Islands

... and this is just one possibility. There are many, many others.