Salisbury, NC??

Old Jun 24th, 2006, 06:05 AM
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Salisbury, NC??

Found this town on "Find Your Spot". Had never heard of it before.

We are exploring places in NC for possible retirement - visiting Chapel Hill area Labor Day weekend and looking forward to that.

Find Your Spot calls it the "Paris of the Piedmont" which I'm sure is overstated, but we like artsy towns, that have historic homes, and things going on.

Winston-Salem also looks interesting. Can anyone comment on either??

p.s. I am a little dismayed at the high crime rates in NC (and the South in general). What is this attributed to?
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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 06:58 AM
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Salisbury NC as the Paris of the Piedmont? No offense to anyone, but that is EXTREMELY hard to imagine.

Winston-Salem is an outstanding town, with more history, nice restaurants and art than you'd expect in a southern city of approx. 150K. If you're already visiting Chapel Hill, W/S is about 1.5 hours west on I-40. Check it out and give Salisbury a pass, IMHO.

Crime rates? What data are you looking at? Is it city-specific? Does it break down rural v. metro? Does it specify types of crimes?

There is a certain level of crime everywhere, but having spent nearly my whole life in the carolinas, I can tell you that it's not an issue that is in the forefront of anyone's mind--there is no sense here of a pervasive state of high crime.
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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 07:10 AM
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I use to live on High Rock Lake, which has a Salisbury address. This was 12 years ago when property was less expensive. Salisbury is a nice town situated between Charlotte NC and north to Lexington (BBQ capital). I loves the lake area. The schools at that time were not real good, but I have no idea what they are like now.
Its a growing area with great weather.
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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 08:19 AM
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How's the weather (paticularly the heat and humidity) in Winston-Salem?
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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 09:42 AM
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Isn't Elizabeth Dole from Salisbury? Or maybe her mother lives(d) there.

The real icee lived in Salisbury and I don't recall him ever talking about it being artsy. But, since he's not an artsy person, don't guess he would!!
Old Jun 24th, 2006, 12:41 PM
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Carrboro is "Paris of the Piedmont" not Salisbury. I think they even have a festival for it (Carrboro seems to have a lot of festivals).

I've driven by so I don't know much about the place. But I would come to CH (and Carrboro) on a regular weekend, not a holiday one when the students leave to see the town.
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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 02:30 PM
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I don't even think I would call Carrboro the Pof the P. Salisbury has a lot of antique shops (not terribly good ones). W-S is a nice small town with a nice city "feel". Having had a large corporation as its base gives it some amenities that other cities of the size have. Location is nice being close to the mountains and the beach.
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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 03:06 PM
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Salisbury is a small town which would put you in pretty close range to Charlotte. Paris it ain't! It has one good restaurant. My suggestion is to live elsewhere and occasionally drive over to Salisbury and have dinner at La Cava. (Senator Dole's mother lived in Salisbury. I will pass on any further observations about her connection to the state she "represents".)
Winston Salem was my home for over twenty years. I still live about forty minutes away and go there frequently. The city has about 160k and the county a bit over 250k population. Home prices are averaging in the high 100's-200. Not much public transportation, but that is changing. Two of the best hospitals in the State, Wake Forest University Medical Center/Baptist Hospital and Forsyth Hospital are there. The city is home to a thriving arts scene, a marvelous historical area (Old Salem), good restaurants and plenty of theatre (THANK YOU, North Carolina School of the Arts!!). There is a beautiful greenway through the city to Salem Lake for biking, horseback riding and walking. Recreation opportunities abound. In general the city is very safe. The city is about four hours from the beach and an hour from the mountains.
If you have other questions about Winston Salem, let me know. I would be glad to help. Come on down, Y'all.
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My cousins who were born and bred in Pittsburgh moved to Salisbury about 8 years ago (he's the head of Food Lion) and about had a coronary.

They quickly moved to Lake Norman and adjusted rather quickly.

I still laugh at Judy moving from a big northern city to a town as small as Salisbury. She really did think that small southern town thing was Urban Legend.

wanderer, crime is related directly to poverty.
Old Jun 24th, 2006, 05:45 PM
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I'm proud to say I live in Winston-Salem and it is a very nice place in which to live and raise a family.

As mentioned in an earlier post, we are 4 hours from the coast and much less from the gorgeous mountains. We have a very active arts population and as a matter of fact, my DH and I just just spent a lovely afternoon downtown at a wine festival. The Yadkin Valley (less than 45 minutes from WS) has been named a wine appellation area and has quite a number of excellent wineries.

WS is a great place. We are less than 1 hour from Charlotte and Raleigh airports and about 30 minutes (It personally takes me exactly 12 minutes) to get to Greensboro airport. We are accessible, climate friendly, and have excellent post-graduate and medical facilities.

We have pretty darn good restaurants also.

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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 06:09 PM
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OK, you've all convinced me - WS is worth a visit!

If we have time we will try and drive there while we are in CH.

Can anyone fill us in on the differences between CH and WS?

They both seem like 2 really great places to see and consider.

We may also consider Asheville - have seen some good write-ups.

If anyone can offer a comparison of the 3, I'd be in Heaven!

Looking forward to our visit.

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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 06:14 PM
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I can't give you comparisons between the three, but I'd pick Asheville in a heartbeat over the 3. I'd choose ANY of the three over Salisbury. I've spent nights there on business travel and never saw a hint of Paris
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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 06:32 PM
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WS and CH are very different. Both are university towns but a different feel. CH is "big", WS is "small". Don't pay attention to the population. CH is a part of the "Triangle" and it is a metropolitan area basically.
You'll just have to come see. You have gotten some EXcellent first hand observations that I agree totally with from my perspective of living in Charlotte. I would suggest you investigate some longer term visitation to various places. NC is a retirement paradise in MANY areas.
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Old Jun 24th, 2006, 06:52 PM
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Size: smallest to largest
Chapel Hill, Asheville, Winston Salem.
Proximity to beach: closest to furthest.
Chapel Hill, Winston Salem, Asheville
Proximity to mountains:
Asheville (you are there), Winston-Salem, Chapel Hill.
Quality hospitals: I think it is a tie between Chapel Hill (UNC and Duke) and Winston Salem.
Good airport: Chapel Hill (RDU). Winston Salem second and Asheville a poor third.
Politics: Chapel Hill and Asheville are the most open societies, have the best enviornmental protection records and tend to vote Democratic. Winston Salem is more conservative and tends to vote Republican.
Newspapers: IMHO about even on that score.
Arts scene: All good. I think Asheville probably has a leg up on the quality crafts, but all three have active arts communities. Chapel Hill is so close to Raleigh/Durham it has the benefits of all three communities.
Shopping: Chapel Hill, hands down.
Restaurants: This is a close one. I think Chapel Hill wins (again because Durham and Raleigh are so close) but you won't go hungry in any of them.
Recreation: Asheville. Hiking, biking, gorgeous wilderness, golf, skiing(near).
Does this help?
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cmc, just to throw a little wrench into things, many of the Duke residents intern at Asheville hospitals.

My MIL was a nurse for 35 years at the VA and ran the operating rooms and broke in many a Duke resident. She subscribes to the AMA just to keep up with her now world famous former residents!
Old Jun 24th, 2006, 08:27 PM
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We are exploring NC for a move in a few (2 or 3) years as well. Chapel Hill looks appealing. I'd prefer Asheville but the company I work for doesnt' have an office there.

I've done comparisions of crime rates as well. Raleigh/Durham and Charlotte both have higher rates than Austin. Not huge, but noticeable. Chapel Hills' is listed as a bit below Austin's. Which is interesting since it is so close to RDU.
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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 03:59 AM
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Why would being close to an airport make the crime higher? Chapel Hill is fairly small university town that happens to be in a triangle with Durham (a comparatively small town) and Raleigh (relatively large city that has the airport).
To be very candid, I don't think having Duke residents at the Asheville hospital elevates it to the level of Wake, Duke or UNC.
What kind of crime is of concern? I wonder if the two relo posters come from some Shangri-la with no crime at all?
The last poster might enjoy Charlotte. It has a very nice quality of life.

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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 02:05 PM
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Yes, I come from a VERY low crime area am so am spoiled, but the trade-off is ridiculously high housing prices...

Anyway, starrsville, wondering why you picked Asheville out the the 3 NC places. We've now got that on our list to take a trip to.
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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 03:58 PM
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wanderer - re your question -
mostly because of location. I will almost always choose a mountain location over one in the "flatlands". This is not to say anything against the other two. I just love almost everything about the Asheville area.

A good friend moved there from Atlanta a few years ago and just loves it. It is a big town /small city with lots going on. I'm amazed at the acts coming to town whenever I'm there. Diverse. Liberal. Homage to mountain culture/ origin without looking backward (those who have lived in small town, and small MOUNTAIN towns may be able to relate. Good restaurants. Ecletic shopping. Mostly, just people that I would like to be my neighbors. Lots of outdoor activities. My favorite wine shop in the SE.

If you like "artsy towns, that have historic homes and things going on" you just described Asheville.

The Asheville area is worth considering. Black Mountain. Hendersonville.

Does anyone else miss wildflower? She had just moved to Asheville and absolutely loved it before she died. I think of her often (driving with cats). I miss her.

Good luck with your search, wanderer.
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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 04:10 PM
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PS - re crime rate comment. I have no idea where that comes from. If I think of ANY state with a "high crime rate" (particularly in the SE) it would NOT be North Carolina. NC is one of the friendliest, least "stressful" states I've traveled. At times, it almost like going back to Mayberry (and not just Mt. Airy) and that comment is made in only the nicest way. Heaven forbid, if I were ever "stranded" on a trip, I would be lucky if it were in NC. People are so nice. Have NO idea why you think it has a high crime rate. Wonder who (and how) is playing with stats.
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