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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 05:42 PM
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Thanks everyone for your info. Very helpful. We are so looking forward to our trips.

I've seen/heard several references to crime, especially re: Chapel Hill. There is a site "city-data.com" which lists National Average crime and then town city crime. National average was something like 382 and Chapel Hill was high 500/600s. I live in a place with stats under 100, so it kind of scared me.

Then "Retirement Places Rated" expounded on that, and stated explicitly that "Chapel Hill has a crime problem. Guns have been stolen from stores, and the homes of people who were trying to protect themselves from an onslaught of break-ins".

It's one thing to have college kids joking around and have property damage etc., (but even that would bother me), but quite another when there's a gun problem....

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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 05:58 PM
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Wow! Sounds very official then. I am surprised by that. I'm going to check out my locations.
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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 06:23 PM
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Look again at the website. Chapel Hill has the lowest crime rate of the three you are considering - and pretty much spot on the national average. WS is in the middle and Asheville is the highest.

BUT, my little town has the same rate as Asheville - and I feel very safe here. That's one thing I hate about stats. "Numbers don't lie" but what exactly do they mean?

Did they actually use city limits? If so, what is the % of low poverty inside the city limits? As said before there is a high correlation between poverty and crime stats. The article about CH was just that - and article.

Don't know where you are moving from, but 100 is great! Are you living elsewhere in the south? Gun ownership in the south is not unusual.
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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 06:25 PM
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Oh Lordy! "Mayberry" is in the 600's. (Mt. Airy)

I would not use those stats in choosing a new home. I simply would not.
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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 07:23 PM
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That has to be the weirdest site I have ever seen to be expected to be taken seriously. Geez. "Statistics" really can be made to say any-thing.
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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 07:41 PM
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Gretchen - my bad. Didn't mean to imply that it was close to the airport. My abbreviation for Radliegh - Durham was RDU now I remember that is the airport. Homefair.com also shows Asheville and RD with higher crime rates than where I live now. (Austin)
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Old Jun 25th, 2006, 07:47 PM
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Austin, those stats are warped. Not sure why or how, but they do not accurately reflect the "safety" of several cities I know well and checked. Not sure what is skewing the results, but they are indeed skewed.
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 02:45 AM
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I agree about stats - it is very hard to tell what they are - i.e., was the murder a domestic dispute or a random act of violence?

I find "Retirement Places Rated" stats the most comprehensive for what they are - break down violent crime - rape, murder, robbery, and non-violent crime. Appears to be fairly accurate for what it is. But that's why I ask the locals - only they will tell you the truth.

I remember our first visit to Savannah - walking around @6pm with a map trying to find a place to eat. A local stopped in the street in her car (!) and told us to not walk close to the bushes but closer to the street side of the sidewalk at night, as people were known to hide in the bushes and rob people.

This was in the historic district mind you!! I thought perhaps she was just a little paranoid, then the next day splashed across the front page of the paper was the story of a 45 yr old mother who had gone grocery shopping, and she was shot to death in the parking lot!!

I come from the Northeast and no, we don't have a "gun culture" up here, but I am familiar with and know how to shoot guns being married previously to a police officer. However, it's guns in the wrong hands (as in the Chapel Hill story about all the break-ins) that are a problem.
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 05:17 AM
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If cost of housing/living is going to figure into your decision I think you'll be surprised how expensive Asheville is - more expensive than any other town in NC - at least that's what all the reports we see say. We were in WS last year mid-June for the wine festival and were amazed at how little was going on downtown in a town of that size. Asheville by comparison is always busy and active downtown - especially that time of year. Guess everyone at WS was either in Asheville or at the beach on that weekend!
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 03:49 PM
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Yes, cost of living is a very big factor, but coming from where we live, Asheville is downright cheap!

You cannot get a 3br/2ba home here from under 700K that does not need work!!
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 06:05 PM
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p.s. What is Cary like?

I just found a web site with pictures of the downtowns of some NC towns. Looks pretty cute.

Mt. Airy also looked adorable, but I think that is too small for us.
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 06:07 PM
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I wasn't suggesting Mt. Airy. Most people are looking for the idyllic "Mayberry" kind of town - and I just think it's very cool that Mayberry actually exists = Mt. Airy.

Have you read the Jan Karon books?
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 06:20 PM
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I live just outside Pilot Mountain (you may remember when Andy and Barney dated fast girls and left Helen and Thelma Lou at home, the fast girls lived in Mount Pilot!!). Pilot Mountain is about half way between Mt. Airy and Winston Salem. Mt.Airy is a fun place to visit. There is a strong sense of community and it has a lot of charm. We do capitalize on the Andy connection and there is a ton of Mayberryabilia to be found...plus Snappy Lunch, the Blue Bird Diner and Floyd's barber shop. There are a couple of nice shops (High Cotton, Seasons, Meadows of Dan) on the Main Street and one or two decent restaurants. For most services people go to Winston Salem. Home prices are very good, but there is no thriving industry in Mt.Airy. Most of the big employers (textiles) are gone or going. The hospital facilities are 'outposts" of the Winston Salem hospitals. There is no airport within an hour's drive and very limited public transportation. Crime rate is low, primarily drugs, theft and domestic violence.
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 06:26 PM
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Woo-hoo, cmcfong! Pilot Mtn! Does that mean you are a "fast girl"? I planned a trip with a stop in Mt. Airy and really enjoyed eating lunch there and a few hours shopping around.

Pilot Mtn....Gooolllll-lee! (Or however you would type what Gomer would say! )
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 07:17 PM
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NC is a good state and if you choose Asheville, Chapel Hill or WS, you will not regret it.

I personally live in WS and I find it ideal for raising a family. When my daughter required complicated eye surgery, there were 2 hospitals in the country where the procedure was done: Johns Hopkins in Baltimore and Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center in WS. I am grateful to live in an area with a top-notch medical center.

I don't want to detract from Duke Hospital, but WFUBMC has been, literally, a life-saver for us.

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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 08:08 PM
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wanderer, check out this link to a top 10 retirement list.

http://southeasternretirement.com/topten.htm
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 02:09 AM
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Hey starrsville - thanks for the link!

Can anyone comment on Cary?

p.s. I only checked on Mt. Airy 'cause it was right there in th elist - looks adorable!
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 03:48 AM
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Starrsville, LOL!
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 11:02 AM
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My comment on Cary, a very outdated comment, is that when I grew up in Raleigh we considered Cary to be basically an affluent suburb of Raleigh. I am not sure whether that has changed much.

Another comment I have is that Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill is the most metro area in NC. While all three cities have their own identities, it has the feel of a much bigger, spread-out place--kind of reminds me of Houston. If that's what you're looking for, fine. But as your original interest was in Salisbury . . .
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 03:55 PM
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No, we hate sprawl! We'll just have to see!

We are looking for - hard to find - something on the "scale" of a Savannah or Charleston, SC. Very walkable. Feeling of being smallish with a definite downtown. Realls didn't want to go over 50K pop, but some bigger places have "pockets" that make it feel smaller like Savannah.

We definitely don't want a big metropolis, in fact found Charlottesville, VA too busy and spread out.

We like compact, walkable places with some historic interest and charm. Towns that come to mind we've liked - all different, but similar feel - Mantucket, MA, Sonoma, CA, St. Helena, CA, Healdsburg, CA, Calistoga, CA, Camden, ME, and the above Charleston, SC and Savannah, GA. We also found Beaufort, SC cute, but didn't like the surrounding area - strip malls, etc.

Are we fishing in the wrong pond?
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