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Old Apr 5th, 2004, 07:32 AM
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Saturday is planned for Soho, Greenwich Village, etc. Outdoor markets, shopping, etc. Dinner at Balthazar. Looking for some trendy spots for after

After dinner, I'd suggest going for drinks at the Soho Grand hotel, on West Broadway, half a block from Canal St. Being that you're all interior designers, I'm sure that you'll enjoy it. The staircase alone should make the trip worth it...

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Old Apr 8th, 2004, 02:37 AM
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Thanks for Soho Grand reminder.

Topping for more ideas. Thanks.
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Old Apr 8th, 2004, 03:59 AM
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For Saturday after Balthazar - maybe the lounge at Suba on Ludlow Street? - and/or a cruise of the "new" Lower East Side - hit some of the totallytrendy bars like Schillers around Clinton Street?
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Gee, Gekko, you just don't get it do you? Your comments about location make perfect sense for New Yorkers living in other parts of the city. But you seem to miss the major point here. This is a thread about someone staying IN TIMES SQUARE at the Marquis, and someone says the restaurants there are all lousy. Don't you think that the idea of it being a lousy location should go out the window when someone is already staying right there? Doesn't that even make a little sense to you? My original comment is aimed at New Yorkers telling people staying in the theatre district that there are NO good restaurants there. I maintain they are horribly wrong! I rest my case, but I know you'll never be able to understand such a simple little fact.
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LilMsFoodie can you provide information on Kips Bay showhouses? I tried accessing a website about it, but my computer keeps 'locking'. Thanks!
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Old Apr 8th, 2004, 04:47 AM
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Margie: http://www.kipsbay.org

Showhouse dates have been moved to start May 4-31st. Still going to miss it. It hasn't been the trend moving event it used to be as design has changed with the 24/7 HGTV, etc shows. Most of those interior design shows are appalling IMNSHO but they have had impact.

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Old Apr 8th, 2004, 04:51 AM
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MP thanks for the bar suggestions for Saturday. Having some places in mind beats cabbing it aimlessly downtown. LMF
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Old Apr 8th, 2004, 04:55 AM
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Suba has a website, too - www.subanyc.com
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I've heard you make this argument before, Patrick, and, of course, no one means JUdson Grill or Le Bernadin (or even Remi) when they are talking about how there are "no good restaurants around Times Square." That's because tourists rarely just happen into those restaurants. They are somewhat out of the way of most tourists's paths in Times Square (in fact, I don't think most NYers would consider Le Bernadin in "Times Square") and they typically require advance reservations.

When NYers suggest that tourists get away from Times Square for good dining they are attempting to discourage them from simply walking around the area, looking at the menus at places like those Carnegie Deli ripoffs, Lindy's, Olive Garden, etc. and happening in there for overpriced, mediocre food because that is what they see.

Yes, there are a few good restaurants in and around Times Square and they get recommended here frequently, but there is a lot of chaff to separate from the wheat for those who aren't "in the know" as you obviously are. Can we finally put this issue to bed?
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Old Apr 8th, 2004, 05:21 AM
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Well, sure. I agree with every word you say, (just as I agree with everything Gekko says), except the assumption that I am somehow totally different from a lot of other tourits. There are many tourists "in the know". But I cannot ignore the horribly wrong statement that there are NO good restaurants in Times Square. Of course there are hundreds of lousy ones (but let's face it, there are some lousy ones in all parts of the city too).
My comments were never been to be so wrongly misinterpreted as "the best restaurant area in New York is Times Square". God forbid. It is just that I can't sit idly by and ignore people who so wrongly tell a bunch of strangers that it is impossible to get a good meal in the Theatre District. That is simply totally wrong.
Now do we agree? I'm willing to put the issue to rest, but I assure you that I will speak up again when someone posts next time that ALL the restaurants in the Theatre District are HORRIBLE, just as I will speak up when someone says that all the people of Paris are rude, or that all the beaches of Florida are shark-infested, or any of the other typical myths.
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Sidestepping the TS debate...Margie, here's the info for this year's showhouse copied from a website

603 Park Avenue, NYC,(at 64th Street)
(718) 893-8600 ext. 245
Open Mon-Sat. 11AM to 5PM, Sundays noon to 5PM
Admission $25, no infants or children under 6
May 4 - 31, 2004

LilMsFoodie, a few more thoughts for you. I haven't been to Pj Clark's in ages but don't think it has the interesting crowd it once did. If you do go there, you must take them for a drink at the Four Seasons rest. before or after. An alternative dinner place is Trattoria Dell 'Arte-a bit closer to the hotel. Not a dive but fun, possible celeb spotting & can be cheap with antipasti & pizza.

My biggest comment is if you guys are serious shoppers, unless you're trust fund babies, forget Madison Ave & the upper east side. Yes, a stop at Barneys is probably in order but then...head to the discount places like Daffys, Century 21 etc. or Lexington Ave. in the 60's,70's could be fun. Do you know the William Wayne store?
http://william-wayne.com/

On Fri., what about a late tea somewhere (Kings Carriage House or Cafe Sabarsky in the Neue museum if you're uptown, the Pierre if you're midtown) & then have dinner after the show like most NYers would.

Sat morning the Union Square market might be fun for them to see. What about the flea market on 6th in the 20s'?

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Old Apr 8th, 2004, 05:54 AM
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McLaurie, you've caught my attention with the mention of a drink at Four Seasons restaurant. I've never been there, and since we're trying to budget this trip on our way to Europe, won't be splurging for dinner there again (or even lunch, which seems to be just about as expensive.) But I wasn't aware that there was a regular bar there where one could pop in for cocktails. In fact, I thought I was once told there wasn't, just a small waiting area for those waiting for dinner. Am I wrong? Tell me I am, so that we can stop by for a cocktail one evening.
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Well it's been a while since I was there Patrick, but can't imagine it's changed. Yes, you're wrong, there's a big bar! Big after work hangout.
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Two off-the-beaten path ideas:

1) Take a tour of the Lower East Side Tenement Museum. I am a born and bred new yorker and I was blown away by this museum which shows how new yorkers used to live. I took my future in-laws on their visit -- it really has something for everyone! This is their web site: http://www.tenement.org/

2) It sounds like you have food ideas to last you until 2005, HOWEVER, it is fun to have tea -- the Inn at Irving (the Grammercy Park area) does a very nice and actually affordable tea which is fun, a nice way to relax, and something you can't just do anywhere.
This is their web site: http://www.innatirving.com/lady.htm

Have a wonderful trip!
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Old Apr 8th, 2004, 09:13 AM
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Thanks for the Kips Bay info, and don't get me started on those "do-you-have-a-glue-gun? then-you-can-decorate-your house" television shows and the actor turned 'decorator'!
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On your downtown day - Saturday - have you thought about NoLita? Soho is great, but includes many outposts of uptown & national/international stores; NoLita is a charming neighborhood of truly original boutiques. It has a European feel, it's a joy to walk around in.

Where to go - Mulberry, Elizabeth, Mott Streets, below Houston - most of the good shops are in the first two blocks : Houston - Prince, Prince-Spring. As you are all design-minded etc. - I hope you don't miss this.

Combineable with Soho - or Chinatown.
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