NYC-Four Seasons Hotel
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I've posted detailed descriptions of my experiences there before (as recently as 11 months ago).
Check the archives (text search).
Bottom line, service second to none (but may seem snooty if you've not travelld much before), rooms are not typical FS, but have a much more modern flair.
Check the archives (text search).
Bottom line, service second to none (but may seem snooty if you've not travelld much before), rooms are not typical FS, but have a much more modern flair.
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Carl, while Four Seasons is the world's highest rated hotel chain, it has its properties that are less spectacular.
I've been pleased but not overwhelmed by stays at the FS Toronto (where the corporation is based), Four Seasons London (needs freshening up) and FS Nevis (same complaint).
I will admit I'm picky, but when you pay for the best, you expect the best.
I've been pleased but not overwhelmed by stays at the FS Toronto (where the corporation is based), Four Seasons London (needs freshening up) and FS Nevis (same complaint).
I will admit I'm picky, but when you pay for the best, you expect the best.
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OMG Carole!!!! I feel exactly the same.
I am typing this message from the Toronto FS and I can't tell you how disappointed I am. Ordinary. Yucky motel quality bathtub... I'm not kidding, it's just a regulation tub, old and stained. The room and amenities are fine. The Regent properties are consistant. I have never been in a bad Regent. In NYC the Regent Wall Street is a favorite and I adore the Benjamin.
I am typing this message from the Toronto FS and I can't tell you how disappointed I am. Ordinary. Yucky motel quality bathtub... I'm not kidding, it's just a regulation tub, old and stained. The room and amenities are fine. The Regent properties are consistant. I have never been in a bad Regent. In NYC the Regent Wall Street is a favorite and I adore the Benjamin.
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Did you know that both the Four Seasons and Fairmont hotel chains are owned by Canadians. The Four Seasons was always a Canadian chain. The Fairmont chain was bought by the Canadian Pacific hotel chain (they owned the Chateau Laurier, Banff Springs Hotel, Chateau Lake Louse, Royal York, etc). However, when they bought Fairmont, they recognized it was a "better" international brand name and kept it.
Oh Canada!
Did you also know that the Ritz-Carlton in Chicago is a Four Seasons property?
By the way, from the outside, I always thought the Four Seasons Toronto looked bland. Same thing with the Four Seasons in Georgetown (D.C.). I guess it's what's on the inside that counts. Of course, hotels that I think look more interesting on the outside [The Plaza (NY), The Palace (SF), Royal York (Tor)] apparently do not earn five or even four-star ratings.
On the other hand, the new Four Seasons in San Francisco looks amazing (that's a matter of opinion of course, others hate it).
Still, I will never have enough money to consider it "worth it" to pay for those sorts of hotels; well out of my league. Just thought some of this info was interesting (useless trivia)
Oh Canada!
Did you also know that the Ritz-Carlton in Chicago is a Four Seasons property?
By the way, from the outside, I always thought the Four Seasons Toronto looked bland. Same thing with the Four Seasons in Georgetown (D.C.). I guess it's what's on the inside that counts. Of course, hotels that I think look more interesting on the outside [The Plaza (NY), The Palace (SF), Royal York (Tor)] apparently do not earn five or even four-star ratings.
On the other hand, the new Four Seasons in San Francisco looks amazing (that's a matter of opinion of course, others hate it).
Still, I will never have enough money to consider it "worth it" to pay for those sorts of hotels; well out of my league. Just thought some of this info was interesting (useless trivia)
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The Ritz Chicago is owned and managed by FS (past 6 years or so), but it was built by RC and as such it looks like most other Ritz's (I hate RC bathrooms...that white/gray marble and those shower/tubs).
What does Canadian ownership have to do with anything?
Fairmont, by the way, is a very inconsistent chain for its price segment, and not a chain I will stay at unless I know the actual property. There are some very mediocre Fairmonts.
What does Canadian ownership have to do with anything?
Fairmont, by the way, is a very inconsistent chain for its price segment, and not a chain I will stay at unless I know the actual property. There are some very mediocre Fairmonts.
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James I didn't mean your comment about Canadian ownership was a waste or not interesting. I assumed you were implying that it was noteworthy because Canadian management might be somehow expected to be inferior in the luxury segment or something.
I have no reason to believe Canadian management has any pro or con effect on corporate success. Since Canada is so much smaller than the US (population) their businesses don't stand out as much on the US landscape because they are comparatively few in number.
Thanks for the correction, aaa. I first stayed at the RC Chicago about 6 years ago but wasn't sure if the changeover had been recent.
I have no reason to believe Canadian management has any pro or con effect on corporate success. Since Canada is so much smaller than the US (population) their businesses don't stand out as much on the US landscape because they are comparatively few in number.
Thanks for the correction, aaa. I first stayed at the RC Chicago about 6 years ago but wasn't sure if the changeover had been recent.