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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 06:01 AM
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I believe Indiana is non smoking.

Also, PA has a smoking ban....however, many exceptions at bars, clubs, etc. have been granted. Philadelphia has a smoking ban (though I don't know the specifics; I live in Pittsburgh). Pittsburgh has a ban that was recently passed and is slowly coming into effect.
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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Anonymous: Thank you. I used one of the websites listed above to check on Arizona's smoking laws. It was able to provide the information I needed, that is, that Arizona is non-smoking.
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Kentucky's largest city, Louisville, banned smoking a year or so ago.

So your lungs are safe in restaurants in Louisville!
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Louisville and Lexington are non-smoking in bars and restaurants. It's great. Indiana is not a non-smoking state, only certain cities.
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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(For my sins and with regret) I am a smoker. I've been all over the USA and never had much of a problem having a cigarette! Seattle, California, NYC. Sure, you can't smoke in most hotels, nor restaurants, nor ball parks, nor theatres, etc. But I wouldn't want to do that anyway and, in any case, there have been (semi)bans of this sort, in the UK for at least 10 years, so we've certainly got used to it - and we don't even smoke in our own home! The only place I've come across where there has been a COMPLETE ban, has been San Diego Zoo - the entirety of the park is 'smoke free' - terrible to enforce, however - and we spotted many folk taking a sly puff behind the trees (not us, I hasten to add!)
I think it's good. I hate the smell of cigarette smoke! And it's certainly not healthy. I do not wish to make others inhale my second hand smoke and I don't want others to do it to me. However, if the things are still legal and they are happy to take your money for them (and, in this country, at least - take the HUGE tax income from them) then they should have somewhere where they can be smoked!
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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The smoking ban covers the whole state of Washington, not just Seattle.
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Certainly the 'smoking ban' covers the entirety of Washington State. But people still smoke! In Seattle, there was a cute little smokey hole thingie outside our hotel, where people gathered! In Mt Rainier NP, people just smoked ... likewise around Mt St Helens. And Grand Coulee Dam. And Columbia River Road. And. Well, everywhere! The same in NYC, New York State and all states which have been declared 'non smoking'. It's nonsense! OK, you can't smoke in bars etc and that's good. But to say there are smoking bans (as such) anywhere (apart from San Diego Zoo!) is false. The biggest problem we've had here, in the UK, since the 'smoking ban' became law a couple years ago, has been piles of dog ends littering the streets outside clubs and bars ...
Smoking should be banned. Full stop. Illegal. (But then, you see, if that happened, so much tax revenue would be lost that taxes would have to go up ... and that would make governments all over the world rather unpopular - not to mention all those jobs lost in the factories, tobacco farms etc) But, you can't have it both ways and, if cigarettes continue to be legal to buy, then people will smoke them, even if they look sad, standing outside the Marriott on 6th Avenue, in a thunderstorm!
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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I live in Indiana and the state is not non-smoking. Individual cities or areas are non-smoking, though.
Our city had a major fight about banning smoking in bars, restaurants, public places, and finally passed, but the little town next door didn't so many smokers go there and the non-smoking business owners are not happy. In this case there is no distance at all between cities, one block is in one city, the next in another. Also holds true for the county, they don't have smoking bans, so businesses have gone there, as well.
Slowly but surely folks are getting used to it. I LOVE IT. I'm not one of those fanatics, but I sure enjoy dinner out a lot more now that the ban is in place.
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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That's interesting what you say, Challiman, about the non-smoking businesses not being happy. I think the biggest impact here has been to our pubs. Many have closed down due to lack of business.
But I don't think anything else has 'suffered' much. I cannot actually remember smoking in a restaurant for years and years (way before any 'official' ban, I don't recall people smoking in restaurants). And certainly, I wasn't allowed to smoke in my work place (rightly so) - an office, oh at least 12 years ago. But, undoubtedly some businesses (pubs) are suffering the consequences. A real culture shock to me was going to Portugal last year - people smoke everywhere - even in the supermarkets!!
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Wildblue....
I think in order to level the playing field, bans should be state-wide, though I'd LOVE nation-wide bans. I know some restaurants have claimed business is way down, but I think it takes a little while for people to get used to the ban, and then it can mean increased business when those that couldn't tolerate smoke start dining out again.
Unfortunately, during this economic mess, new smoking bans could really cause a drop in income. I do feel really bad about that. I also feel really bad about people with smoking-related illnesses. Just lost a friend from lung cancer.
I also have mixed feelings about the revenue-generating aspect of tobacco. Cigarette taxes raise a lot of money, but the cigarettes themselves cost a lot of money, in actually buying them, illnesses, fires, etc.
I don't like telling others what to do, but I don't want to be around their smoke, either.
I love going to California when I don't even have to think about the smoking issue.
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Thanks, Challiman. We love that non smoking is the norm here in California and consider ourselves fortunate that there is a ban, however it makes us(us, meaning myself and my husband) somewhat intolerant when we visit places that do not have non smoking bans in place, but it has become easier and easier for us to travel outside California as more and more cities, states, and even countries adopt non-smoking policies. I think if the US had federal health services in place for everyone and had to pay for smoke related illnesses, we would see the entire country go smoke-free! I think the costs of smoking related illness outweigh the profits of the tobacco industry, of course I have no stats on that, just a hunch, since I remember a while back one mid western state was suing tobacco companies for their medical costs. Anyone out there, who can help me out on what happened there?
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Smoking is banned in Houston too!
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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When NYC went non-smoking there was a whole bunch of moaning and groaning from the tobacco lobby and smokers that the restaurants and bars would be driven out of business.

Well - none of it happened. Everyone just adapted. And, with the huge increase in the tax on tobacco driving the price of a pack of cigs through the roof - a lot of people have stopped - or cut back on - smoking.
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Old Nov 9th, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Utah was no-smoking far before CA. It's been over 25 years.
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