"The East Village and LES have kids there age out at all hours than any other area in Manhattan including foreigners and kids from the burbs."

I'm sure this is true.

"Come some night and display your notions of the area."

Not sure I understand this, but I get down there every few weeks. Although I'm pushing sixty, and thus feel very old in that neighborhood, I follow a friend's band to venues in the LES and West Village.

"Come some night and display your notions of the area."

My fault, I meant dispell. My wife and I are over sixty and are always out and about. And yes, we are usually the odest ones in the restaurant and we go out often.

I come home after 2 AM at least once a month, and the neighborhood is filled with kids. And if the temperature is over 40 they pour out onto the streets from the bars. And now that the weather is nice the streets on the weekends near the popular brunch places are impassable.

Prrobaly the most remarkable aspect is who is in Tompkins Square Park. It is filled with families and kids. An unthinkable occurence twenty years ago.

"An unthinkable occurence twenty years ago."

Yes, I remember. Heck, I remember when we looked over our shoulders leaving Astor Place!

If two 21 year old girls avoid going east of Tompkins Sq. they will probably miss at least a dozen fun bars.

I'm 62 and even I know that.

Isn't the phrase Alphabet City akin to twenty-three-skidoo?

The trouble is, some folks can't read.

Yes Alphabet City is rarely used any more, but that started another argument some time ago.

So are The Big Apple and Gotham. I never hear anyone who lives here use it. Even the names like Big Apple Greeters and Big Apple Circus seem passe.