New York: "It's SOOOOOOOO Touristy"
May 28th, 2015, 08:35 AM
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This entire thread is pointless because the OP's premise is a straw man. Has anyone here, on this board, ever said, don't go to NYC, it's too touristy? I'm going to say No.
So who cares whether any one of us prefers Barcelona or Charleston or Phuket to NYC, or vice versa?
So who cares whether any one of us prefers Barcelona or Charleston or Phuket to NYC, or vice versa?
May 28th, 2015, 08:44 AM
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I'm sorry, I don't take your point. This is a place for advice, broadly speaking. Expressing one's *preference* for Charleston over New York, when those two places are as different one from the other as they could possibly be, and then attempting to argue about that preference--well, no one ever cared about that, here or anywhere else.
May 29th, 2015, 06:56 AM
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I'm always amazed at the number of people I know or have met who have moved to NYC from elsewhere and many of them proudly talk about how much there is to do in NYC, the theatre, museums, ballet, concerts, etc. Yet if you press them the vast majority of them will end up admitting they haven't been to any of those things in a year or more. Of course, some residents do take advantage of it all, but I'm convinced a very huge number of them (and I'm talking about people WITH cultural backgrounds and enough money to do those things) simply do not do most of those things they proudly boast about the city providing.
I'm also intrigued by the number of New Yorkers who have lived there practically forever who couldn't tell you many of the basics of the city -- location or places, or names of really famous restaurants, or even museums (beyond Moma and the Met). Many New Yorkers pretty much confine their lives to their own little neighborhood. Nothing wrong with that, just saying that it's interesting when people talk about how much the city has to offer -- how few of those things many of those same people ever experience.
I'm also intrigued by the number of New Yorkers who have lived there practically forever who couldn't tell you many of the basics of the city -- location or places, or names of really famous restaurants, or even museums (beyond Moma and the Met). Many New Yorkers pretty much confine their lives to their own little neighborhood. Nothing wrong with that, just saying that it's interesting when people talk about how much the city has to offer -- how few of those things many of those same people ever experience.
May 29th, 2015, 07:17 AM
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Sorry, Neo to disappoint you but we take advantage of the City and we were born here.
Sorry, if I don't like musicals or the more expensive restaurants in midtown, but there are NY'ers who know and use the City.
As the latest Broadway statistics show 70% of Broadway show goers are from out of state and many from out of country. So well Broadway has its local devotees it is not high on the list of activities for many.
As noted, most travelers do not take of the thousands of varied ethnic restaurants, art galleries, smaller museums, indie movies, lesser known sights, the hundreds of music venues, off and off-off Broadway theater, poetry slams, the independent shops, and neighborhoods that may seem different. Shall I go on?
Sorry, if I don't like musicals or the more expensive restaurants in midtown, but there are NY'ers who know and use the City.
As the latest Broadway statistics show 70% of Broadway show goers are from out of state and many from out of country. So well Broadway has its local devotees it is not high on the list of activities for many.
As noted, most travelers do not take of the thousands of varied ethnic restaurants, art galleries, smaller museums, indie movies, lesser known sights, the hundreds of music venues, off and off-off Broadway theater, poetry slams, the independent shops, and neighborhoods that may seem different. Shall I go on?
May 29th, 2015, 07:37 AM
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IMDonehere, did you read my comment, or just purposely misconstrue the entire thing. I certainly KNOW there are many New Yorkers who DO take advantage of such things. Why would you think I would be surprised that you are one of those? Do you maybe not understand the difference between "many" and "all"?
Let me try once again. I personally know >many< people who have moved to NYC and claim that the main reason is because of all the culture it offers, yet once they move, they literally never or almost never take advantage of it. That is not to suggest THAT every New Yorker is like that. Nor am I suggesting that every New Yorker is supposed to like theatre or go. Where did that come from? Clearly those that don't, won't go -- but I'm not talking about them. Nor did I mention anything about expensive midtown restaurants.
Why did you just say that no tourists ever go to art galleries or ethnic restaurants? Sorry to disappoint you but I do those things. See I can twist what you say the same as you twist what I say.
Let me try once again. I personally know >many< people who have moved to NYC and claim that the main reason is because of all the culture it offers, yet once they move, they literally never or almost never take advantage of it. That is not to suggest THAT every New Yorker is like that. Nor am I suggesting that every New Yorker is supposed to like theatre or go. Where did that come from? Clearly those that don't, won't go -- but I'm not talking about them. Nor did I mention anything about expensive midtown restaurants.
Why did you just say that no tourists ever go to art galleries or ethnic restaurants? Sorry to disappoint you but I do those things. See I can twist what you say the same as you twist what I say.
May 29th, 2015, 07:57 AM
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"Why did you just say that no tourists ever go to art galleries or ethnic restaurants?"
Because he believes that to be true.
Because he says that countless times, even after countless people have shared that it's not true for "all tourists".
He remains certain that it is.
It's his schtick.
That and his people-on-the-sidewalk routine.
Because he believes that to be true.
Because he says that countless times, even after countless people have shared that it's not true for "all tourists".
He remains certain that it is.
It's his schtick.
That and his people-on-the-sidewalk routine.
May 29th, 2015, 08:33 AM
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It is not just my shtick. When you read people's questions here and their trip reports, they rarely go to places I cited. When you go TA or read the standard guide books like Frommer's and Fodor's there are few references to these other attractions.
So while it is easy to make an ad hominem attack, please support your claim.
So while it is easy to make an ad hominem attack, please support your claim.
May 29th, 2015, 08:40 AM
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And Starrs, no matter if it is funeral, an after dinner drink, a bar mitzvah, a break up date, or a place to eat after seeing the Cloisters, you recommend the West Bank Cafe. There are 30,000 other restaurants.
May 29th, 2015, 08:47 AM
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It's your schtick.
It has remained unchanged for years.
When people ask for a recommendation for a place to eat in the theater district, I recommend the West Bank Café. If Sam's were still open, I'd recommend that.
It's interesting that's a problem for you.
Even more interesting that you'd come up with such a ridiculous list: "no matter if it is funeral, an after dinner drink, a bar mitzvah, a break up date, or a place to eat after seeing the Cloisters"
"...after seeing the Cloisters"?
That does wonders for your credibility.
It has remained unchanged for years.
When people ask for a recommendation for a place to eat in the theater district, I recommend the West Bank Café. If Sam's were still open, I'd recommend that.
It's interesting that's a problem for you.
Even more interesting that you'd come up with such a ridiculous list: "no matter if it is funeral, an after dinner drink, a bar mitzvah, a break up date, or a place to eat after seeing the Cloisters"
"...after seeing the Cloisters"?
That does wonders for your credibility.
May 29th, 2015, 10:10 AM
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If Asheville is of interest, there are some recommendations -
http://gardenandgun.com/blog/my-town...r-asheville-nc
And for Charleston -
http://gardenandgun.com/article/char...-new-hot-spots
http://gardenandgun.com/blog/my-town...r-asheville-nc
And for Charleston -
http://gardenandgun.com/article/char...-new-hot-spots
May 29th, 2015, 10:13 AM
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And one that marries an earlier question -
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...o-touristy.cfm
"We love talking to folks who recently moved to Charleston, most likely because we remember—viscerally—being newcomers ourselves to the Holy City. In August 1979, our parents moved from bleak, post–Son of Sam Manhattan into a tall yellow townhouse on Rainbow Row, in predominantly residential South of Broad. That neighborhood encompasses the southern tip of the peninsula, where the Ashley River meets the Cooper River in Charleston Harbor. We were eight and ten, awed and overwhelmed trying to make sense of this world of old houses and horse-drawn carriages, where a street vendor pushing a perambulator-style stroller sold wet paper bags of peanuts that had been boiled in salt water. Now we’re especially solicitous of recent arrivals—reaching out to them, finding out what they’re interested in, sending them on paths of inquiry we hope will prove this place to be even richer in story and culture than they ever imagined..."
more at link
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...o-touristy.cfm
"We love talking to folks who recently moved to Charleston, most likely because we remember—viscerally—being newcomers ourselves to the Holy City. In August 1979, our parents moved from bleak, post–Son of Sam Manhattan into a tall yellow townhouse on Rainbow Row, in predominantly residential South of Broad. That neighborhood encompasses the southern tip of the peninsula, where the Ashley River meets the Cooper River in Charleston Harbor. We were eight and ten, awed and overwhelmed trying to make sense of this world of old houses and horse-drawn carriages, where a street vendor pushing a perambulator-style stroller sold wet paper bags of peanuts that had been boiled in salt water. Now we’re especially solicitous of recent arrivals—reaching out to them, finding out what they’re interested in, sending them on paths of inquiry we hope will prove this place to be even richer in story and culture than they ever imagined..."
more at link
May 29th, 2015, 10:15 AM
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