New York and Washington Airports
Jan 5th, 2014, 10:56 AM
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LGA runways are built out into the water on landfill as it is - and there have been a couple of instances of planes skidding into the water on landing (yes, in bad weather). What's scary to me is driving onn the Grand Central and having the planes come in for a landing right over your head.
I would not want to land there in a larger plane.
But NYC really does need more landing strips - but more likely at JFK.
I would not want to land there in a larger plane.
But NYC really does need more landing strips - but more likely at JFK.
Jan 6th, 2014, 02:48 AM
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Passengers hate long over-water landings, whether these or SFO or BO'S or whatever.
I used to be a fearful flyer. I have lived in New England since 1979. For ten of those years, I lived in a waterfront condo tower where I could see the end of the runway at Logan. Day after day, night after night, in rain, fog, and snow, I watched planes land and take off. Safely.
Since 1979, exactly two (2) passengers have died at Logan, and they were on an air charter -- not a scheduled flight -- that slid off the end of the runway into the harbor on a stormy night. Irony of ironies, they were in the first two seats and drowned when the nose broke off. These would be the first row in first class on a scheduled flight. Think about that when you are aching to upgrade!
There are miserable over-water landings. St Bart's and St Maartin/St Martin are famous. Watch the YouTube videos. Dubrovnik is so awful that the flight attendants take Ativan if there is weather. But when is the last time you heard about a fatal crash at any of these?
I "used to be" a fearful flier? There still things that happen in the air that I hate. I hate flying in the Midwest or into DFW or CLT in thunderstorm season but I don't even look up from my crossword at LGA or DCA except to check out the scenery.
Your mileage may vary. No former terrified flyer will mock anyone who still has a problem.
I used to be a fearful flyer. I have lived in New England since 1979. For ten of those years, I lived in a waterfront condo tower where I could see the end of the runway at Logan. Day after day, night after night, in rain, fog, and snow, I watched planes land and take off. Safely.
Since 1979, exactly two (2) passengers have died at Logan, and they were on an air charter -- not a scheduled flight -- that slid off the end of the runway into the harbor on a stormy night. Irony of ironies, they were in the first two seats and drowned when the nose broke off. These would be the first row in first class on a scheduled flight. Think about that when you are aching to upgrade!
There are miserable over-water landings. St Bart's and St Maartin/St Martin are famous. Watch the YouTube videos. Dubrovnik is so awful that the flight attendants take Ativan if there is weather. But when is the last time you heard about a fatal crash at any of these?
I "used to be" a fearful flier? There still things that happen in the air that I hate. I hate flying in the Midwest or into DFW or CLT in thunderstorm season but I don't even look up from my crossword at LGA or DCA except to check out the scenery.
Your mileage may vary. No former terrified flyer will mock anyone who still has a problem.
Jan 7th, 2014, 01:31 AM
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Since I had to fly for work, I did three things:
1. Saw a cognitive behavioral therapist to understand why I was a afraid AND learn techniques to manage it. I was not always afraid of flying.
2. Learned everything I possibly could about flying by reading flying forums, pilot blogs, and, yes, FAA accident reports. This included being mindful when I was flying: what were those sounds, when have I heard them before, why is it likely to be bumpy when descending, etc. if the same noises happen all the time, they are nothing to worry about. In the days before 9/11, you could ride in the cockpit on BA and some other transatlantic flights. I did.
3. Medication, Ativan for me. I started with one every time I flew, then one if I expected lots of turbulence but still frequently, now rarely if ever.
Well, three more things: now that I am retired I try not to fly to the Midwest in tornado season, I fly as early in the day as possible during the thunderstorm season, and, like the Cowardly Lion, I occasionally become brave by acting brave
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1. Saw a cognitive behavioral therapist to understand why I was a afraid AND learn techniques to manage it. I was not always afraid of flying.
2. Learned everything I possibly could about flying by reading flying forums, pilot blogs, and, yes, FAA accident reports. This included being mindful when I was flying: what were those sounds, when have I heard them before, why is it likely to be bumpy when descending, etc. if the same noises happen all the time, they are nothing to worry about. In the days before 9/11, you could ride in the cockpit on BA and some other transatlantic flights. I did.
3. Medication, Ativan for me. I started with one every time I flew, then one if I expected lots of turbulence but still frequently, now rarely if ever.
Well, three more things: now that I am retired I try not to fly to the Midwest in tornado season, I fly as early in the day as possible during the thunderstorm season, and, like the Cowardly Lion, I occasionally become brave by acting brave
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